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Topic: Nuclear Ship Visit /TTPA Link
Posted By: mowerman
Subject: Nuclear Ship Visit /TTPA Link
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 8:31pm
Well They may just spark up the anti Nuclear movement again.
75% of Kiwis say its ok ?
 
Is it really ok ?
 
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Posted By: Southern_Jez
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 8:17am
"Anyway, let’s not panic until we get a bit more clarity on what is going on here." - last line of the article you linked

Bit of a non-story dont you think?

Personally the mis-education of NZ'ers around nuclear power has been horrendous at best, and fearmongering at worst. Modern reactors, and technologies such as LFTR (Liquid Flouride Thorium Reactors developed in the 60s but mothballed due to the fact they cant develop weapons grade materials) are safer - and less radioactive - than your standard coal power plant like Huntly. Before you bring up Chernobyl (human error), three mile island (human error), Fukushima (end of life plant that exceeded design specs and failed due to inability to get emergency power back to reactor due to mismatched plugs) you should really do some research into modern nuclear power generation tech.

Personally im all for no nuclear weapons in NZ (I dont think there should be any on the planet, but the genie has been released already), but modern nuclear power is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned, and I would happily have a LFTR in my back yard. NukeThumbs Up


Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 9:00am
Contamination is forever.

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Posted By: part-timer
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 9:52pm
Originally posted by mowerman mowerman wrote:

Contamination is forever.

your real name isnt Nicky Hagar, is it?



Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2016 at 5:55am
That is a true comment.I don't care what you think..

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Posted By: Southern_Jez
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2016 at 6:58am
Originally posted by mowerman mowerman wrote:

I don't care what you think..

and that mindset renders any discussion absolutely pointless ...


Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2016 at 7:26am
Fact is that point..contamination is forever. .it's true.nothing about set minds.Many country's are getting rid of Nuclear power . storage of spent waste is a world wide problem as it is still lethal in 30000 years.Accidents do happen and will happen.1 accident affects the world. .
USA has alot to answer for in recent years with its foot in every country and wars it created along with destabilize the entire middle east.They arnt Always the good guys..
As for Part timers sny remarks.He obviously didn't want to discuss hence my remark.

NZ is nuclear free Zone.Lets keep it that way

We don't need nuclear power either as we have ample methods here to generate power.
Hydro..still many potential sites / Salt water turbines..huge potential on Auckland's doorstep.


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Posted By: KikBac
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2016 at 9:43am
Yep since NZ declared itself nuclear free the World has been a much safer place. Since 1985 there have hardly been any wars, genocide, acts of terrorism etc...


Posted By: v8-coupe
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2016 at 10:19am
Originally posted by Southern_Jez Southern_Jez wrote:

<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">"<span style="line-height: 24.003px;">Anyway, let’s not panic until we get a bit more clarity on what is going on here." - last line of the article you linked</span>
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<span style="line-height: 24.003px;"><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bit of a non-story dont you think?

Personally the mis-education of NZ'ers around nuclear power has been horrendous at best, and fearmongering at worst. Modern reactors, and technologies such as LFTR (Liquid Flouride Thorium Reactors developed in the 60s but mothballed due to the fact they cant develop weapons grade materials) are safer - and less radioactive - than your standard coal power plant like Huntly. Before you bring up Chernobyl (human error), three mile island (human error), Fukushima (end of life plant that exceeded design specs and failed due to inability to get emergency power back to reactor due to mismatched plugs) you should really do some research into modern nuclear power generation tech.

Personally im all for no nuclear weapons in NZ (I dont think there should be any on the planet, but the genie has been released already), but modern nuclear power is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned, and I would happily have a LFTR in my back yard. NukeThumbs Up</span>




Mmmmmm. Wonder what Japan and its surrounding areas feel about the safety of modern Nuclear power plants?
I was in the UK when Chenobyl went up. A few months later the markets and stores were selling vegetables with different coloured stickers and prices depending on the closeness of the region the product came from. The closer to Chenobyl the cheaper the product. You paid your money and took your chances. Having said that it was not known at the time, but it was also the height of mad cow disease. I still can not give blood anymore for that reason. Mooooo, moooo I say as I stamp my feet and stumble off.

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Posted By: Clifftastic
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2016 at 11:43am
NZ is the 4th most peaceful country in the world, behind Iceland, Denmark and Austria. We probably don't need a nuclear visit by the most murderous nation in the world...

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Posted By: mowerman
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2016 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Clifftastic Clifftastic wrote:


NZ is the 4th most peaceful country in the world, behind Iceland, Denmark and Austria. We probably don't need a nuclear visit by the most murderous nation in the world...


Your leaving yourself open Cliff..someone will tear you to bits saying that .

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