Shimano Ocea braid EX8 pe8/121lb
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Printed Date: 04 Feb 2026 at 11:20am
Topic: Shimano Ocea braid EX8 pe8/121lb
Posted By: Grovo
Subject: Shimano Ocea braid EX8 pe8/121lb
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2016 at 11:08pm
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Has anyone used this? Or currently using this? and has caught big fish on it? Has it performed well? No light breakages? Am heading up to the Kings on May, and have this stuff on the dogfight, have caught a few kings to 20kg and it seems fine so far. Just heard a disturbing sorry about a guy up there who had it breaking very easily, and on dry land popping at 18/19kg. I'm hoping this was a one off, or have others had issues with this product? Am going to head down the gym and test the breaking strain of my spool, but was after some other real life experience. Cheers, Mark ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Grovo
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2016 at 9:50pm
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Bump, anyone? ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2016 at 8:03am
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I haven't used the PE8 but have caught plenty of kingis on PE4 both jigging and stickbait. ------------- It aint no use if it aint chartreuse! |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2016 at 7:35pm
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Was waiting to see if anyone whos had first hand experience with it would reply before i put my spoke in. Haven't fished with it myself but have been thinking about respooling a couple of reels used for topwater & jigging with it down the track. From guys i know/have spoken to though they rate it pretty high for its price range and haven't had any of the issues you mentioned - these are guys chasing XXL GT's in Aussie(40kg + fish) and using the PE8 121lb stuff on stella 18,000's etc. Have a look at the vid below if you get a sec 1:30 onwards, using the ocea braid on some decent fish. |
Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2016 at 7:37pm
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Its super thin and supple. I hear its made by YGK ------------- It aint no use if it aint chartreuse! |
Posted By: pirate
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2016 at 8:11pm
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Posted By: bush billy
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 7:23pm
| I have been running Ocea pe8 on the Epic adventures boat Coroking and its doing the job well day in day out. |
Posted By: Gatekeeper
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 8:02pm
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If it can handle an EPIC session it can handle anything!! ------------- There is never a better time to go fishing than now, live the day |
Posted By: Grovo
Date Posted: 02 May 2016 at 9:22pm
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Awesome Billy, that was exactly what I was after. Thanks. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Cheeko
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 1:22pm
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I haven't had direct experience with using it but have heard those same rumours about it. One of the deckys on Enchanter said to me that they had a charter at The Kings with some guys having issues with it. however if Owen is using day in day out with no issues perhaps just a bad batch. cheers
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Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 5:52pm
Cheeko- I'd take what some decky on Undersize Snapper & Co. Charters says with a grain a salt really(yes that's a dig) As i said above, i havn't used the ocea braid yet, but personally know guys using it who i trust their word and have had zero bust offs due to the braid breaking, this is is on over a dozen popping and jigging combos being used for targeting XL GT's etc in Aus and around the world. Ill probably run it on my next addition(saltiga 6500/or stella 18k) if i don't go for jerry brown solid instead. |
Posted By: pirate
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 7:06pm
I did a charter with Enchanter late jan 2016.. one of the guys was using this stuff on one of Lances super duper bass honey holes.. Lets just say there was some yelling after 4x fish lost with some jewelery attached.. usually in the form of a 1200grm earring. The ygk and daiwa boat braid held out with some thumping fish. bad batch maybe i dunno. Like shimano stuff but hmm might stick to me usual artillery
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Cheeko wrote:Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 03 May 2016 at 8:00pm
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Yeah but there is a big difference between being busted off from being run to ground/reefed or user area/ tackle used and the actual braid failing, sure that was the case? I'd be willing to bet $$$ in a legit test that the ocea PE8 breaks higher than PE8 Boat braid, have seen that boat braid tested in front of me and there are plenty of results online that show it breakng around true breaking strain of 80lb(most tests between 75 and 85lb) where as i would be pretty suprised if you could get the PE8 ocea to break sub 100lb... |
Posted By: Cheeko
Date Posted: 04 May 2016 at 12:47pm
Thanks for the dig  Not sure how Enchanter is classed as Undersize Snapper and Co Charters though? Like I said, it was only what I have heard and have nothing against it as having not used it. cheers
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Posted By: pirate
Date Posted: 04 May 2016 at 1:02pm
Mate im well aware of the different scenarios, have done a few trips to the kings now so just sharing my experiences with what i seen first hand.. not just heard about. Firstly, the angler was an accomplished jigger ( he even caught an est 125kg stripey on a 460grm fallings last year, on jm monster pe6 no less.. which im told is made in the same factory as daiwa boat braid and pretty much the same stuff)but whether the ocea is better or breaks at higher breaking strain than dbb then thats another argument, it quite possibly is. all im saying is dbb has never let me down and i have seen the ocea fail. sometimes no matter how good you are theres going to be fish that reef you even with heavy quality braid. In this situation the angler had some 3 or 4 fish up well up off the bottom out of the danger zone and line popped. pr knots and connections were solid. rod eyes were mint 2 with no nicks. Again, Nothing against shimano. Maybe it was just a bad batch. |
Posted By: BigMike
Date Posted: 04 May 2016 at 1:12pm
Actual experience vs hearsay? That's gotta be worth something |
Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 04 May 2016 at 1:40pm
| I'd take actual experience anyway. And digs are not required |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 04 May 2016 at 3:32pm
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Might not be first hand experience, but is from guys i am mates with / know personally and trust 100% when it comes to anything fishing related. Guys who have caught 60kg+ GT's, 80+kg Dogtooth tuna, 400+lb bluefin tuna all on jigs and topwater around the world so they know their sh*t. Take it for what you will, everyone has an opinion on tackle and whats best, no biggie. In regards to the 'dig' it's called a joke man  , and that shady illegal goings on actually happened so is a fact plain and simple. For those that don't know google is your friend or ask around. |
Posted By: Rikki44852
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 7:26pm
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Hi I'm heading out to the kings and have this on a talica 25 was setting drag and just thought I'd check how it went at full drag and it snapped in the braid no where near the knot so tried again a couple of times and same result each time so hooked up to a set of scales and tested again while recording in slow motion and broke at 50 lbs every time and all about 100mm away from knot. But in a panic now as heading up Monday but not going to trust this line need to get it re spooled tomorrow. |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 2:12am
Would be interested to see this recording and how you had the test setup? For one talica 25's are meant to make 44lbs(20kg) max drag and you supposedly had the drag at max and the line was breaking at 50lbs.....(which is still obviously far less than it should be, just sounds really odd to me???) Having now used it myself over the last 3-4 months up to drag levels that would stop 40kg+ GT's i can say first hand it is good stuff  (since some a while back on here think people you know using it, and catching monsters with it on video isn't good enough).I've used both the PE5 & PE8 on overseas trips (the PE5 more so) on multiple GT's in the 20-30kg range, landed a topwater 100lb+ yf tuna in 6-7 minutes on the PE5 as well as several others, dogtooth tuna etc etc as well as kings here in NZ and had zero bust offs due to line failure...Not bragging at all, just an example (waiting for the still not good enough evidence posts ). Not taking a dig at you Rikki44852 - just thought i'd say that as i may come across as being a bit confrontational to some on here at times. But honestly intrigued as to some of these issues people have with various braids. |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 7:50am
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Never used Ocea braid but personally i would stick to a manufacturer that makes braid for a living, not a rod and reel company trying to add another string to their bow. Try Tasline Elite braid, this stuff is one of the best braids made and every batch is tested and average breaking strain is written on the spool. Thin yet ultra strong and very silky to the touch. Never had a wind knot personally using this braid either Check out: www.paulusjustfishing.com for a totally unbiased review of nearly every braid made and you will see why Paul rates this braid as number One. Prices are cheaper than Ocea braid too. -------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 2:34pm
"Never used Ocea braid"  Well that sums it up..."Stick to a manufacturer that makes braid or a living" Like YGK? who as far as i'm aware make it for Shimano.... "Trying to add another string to their bow" Oh yeah because it's the first braid/superline the've sold.... The've been selling power pro which is strong as sh*t (although a bit wire like compared to newer 'braids') for how long??? Once again made by a manufacture who knows what their doing(Innovative textiles i believe). To be clear i'm not saying to Rikki use braid X, or don't use braid Y. I have no affiliation with Shimano and have used the majority of the top end brands of 'braid' while you sell Tasline-just saying. I've been on trips with guys using the Tasline, and yeah it's good stuff Only thing i see is if you're wanting coloured braid for jigging/deep drops then it's not available in the Tasline.Kaveman - Just find it funny the whole bagging on a product thing with no knowledge of the product. It seems no matter how much evidence there is to support the product being up to scratch that's not good enough for some. By all means Rikki, if you're not comfortable using it then change it out, you want to be able to trust your gear. Am still interested in your testing method though because something does not add up there. Good luck on the trip by the way. |
Posted By: fishmad1
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 11:18pm
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I think the unfortunate reality is, that its often difficult to know how good the line is (that is on your specific reel) until its comes under pressure.. We were at the kings a few weeks ago and broke Varivas, Sunline, YGK and Ocea, dropped 8 fish over 7 days. All of that line except for the YGK was brand new. The Sunline was respooled and broke again? Our assumption was bad batches? nicks or wear in the line caused by crossovers under tension? hard to say...checking the leaders after a few crosses is worthwhile as we found more damage than we expected from those crossovers. We had YGK PE6 go at Ranfurly last week..again hard to know why but when I checked the drag on the guys reel (OJ 4000P - New, not modified) it pulled the scale to 24/25 kg at FULL SPOOL..we were in 130 so would of been higher than that. The ideal but not easily viable would be to tie off your chosen rig, walk out 200m and pull up whatever you think you need for your fishing location..argument sake 30kg, you will soon see if there is anything over that 100 or 200 m that is weak. The lines are all getting thinner and supposedly stronger but you have to wonder about the durability of the line. At $50/$60/$70 per 100m you would hope that the line would have a level of durability....what they need is a standard test for durability and market that...no use having the thinnest line break all the time.. ------------- www.hi-ika.com |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 2:04am
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+1 Clem. Definitely some lines seem to be more durable than others (atleast in my experience) odd though some of these issues End of the day everyones got their own preference, i'm running half a dozen different types on various reels, maybe i've been lucky so far |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 9:54pm
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I avoid the "thinnest line" because they have less abrasion resistance. The most reliable braids don't tend to be the thinnest around. If you really want good advice, phone Lance on Enchanter. He has real world experience on the braids that are reliable and braids that are not. 027 4800181. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: Nomis
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 8:34am
Bang on mate, People also forget braid line hates heat, And ive seen countless stores using a rag on the spool to hold tension (generating heat) while spooling and causing the braid to weaken. Funny how things like this get forgotten. Also things like not laying the line tightly on the spool will cause the braid to cut into itself which also causes breakages and is very common - I see it here several times a week ------------- I'll act my age when im 69 |
Posted By: John_Ra
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 9:03am
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People get too caught up in using name brands.... I've been getting braid in from Aliexpress for sometime. Saratoga, Anglers choice & other names 8 strand 500m for $14 (Aus) plus free shipping mate!! my 2 best mates like it..... 10, 20, 30, 80. 100 for a friend too who went to the Kings said was great never had any probs.... Gosen is very nice stuff. Ordered some Tasline elite in 30lb 750m at $151 incl postage... Mussel rope is unforgiving... I like to try diff line, hooks, set ups... ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Stefan
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 4:35pm
| Does the Ocea cast ok? Heard that wind knots might be a problem cause its limp? Want to use it far both jigging and casting... |
Posted By: Fishy11
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 1:15am
Yeah casts mint, as good as any of the other decent quality braids. Didn't seem to get any more wind knots than anything else i've used, for reference have used ygk, daiwa boat braid, daiwa j braid, varivas, power pro solid and hollow, jerry brown solid and hollow, suffix plus a heap of others. Only time i've ever had a actual tangle/knot with it was my own fault, trying to break the line with a line tensioner after getting a lure snagged in the reef and let out a heap of line which got caught on other stuff around me  Ties a real good FG knot too |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 4:41am
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I have stuck to what i can trust.....YGK Jigman x 8 /Diawa Boat Braid/Tasline elite for casting.........The YGK has been the most consistent....have used at white/ranfurly and the three kings and YGK has been excellent. "Also things like not laying the line tightly on the spool will cause the braid to cut into itself which also causes breakages and is very common - I see it here several times a week " YEP. ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Stefan
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 6:57am
| Cheers fellas, want to get a fair amount on my Shimano stradic 5000. I ll give it a go |