I think the moderators might have a go at you on this one?

Puggy loves a wind up for sure it is the only bite he gets though. BUT it is kind of ruining the forum someone said it before all the good guys have gone mainly down to fact we get idiots like him. There is having a different opinion but there is no need to be a wind up just about every day on here and provide zero input. 

we caught way more fish then than now, we had no limit on any fish at all,

then the the Labour Government "David Lang" did the dirty on us and GAVE the fish "Long story short" to the fishing companies,

when the first sounders come out, it was after World War 2,

My Uncle owned the Florence Kennedy the sounder was a round ring which bleeped every time it found fish, 

charter those days would be with 20 to 30 fishermen all with handlines and a woven sack to keep your fish in, no plastic bags back then.

within a few year the fish were being screwed by Fishing companies demanding more fish from their boats,

now it was getting serous, less fish, we copped it fair between the eyes within a span of about 20 years we had a reduction in snapper from no  restrictions to 60 to 30 to 20 to 15 to 10/9 to now 7 

all because the Fishing companies could not catch the allocation they had been given fast enough,

my Grandfather was a excellent fisherman, we had a clinker built boat with a Seagull on the back, we went no further out than Browns Bay reef, we lined up everything via land marks then dropped the anchour.

i continually fished like this till i was 40 years old infact my land marks were so accurate i never need any gadgets until i started working for fishing tackle company now i had to venture further away from AK hence the reason i first started using them and i believe this is were they come into there own...

if you need any proof of my above story say so i will put up photos so you can see for your self.       

Lol, probably the best of the lot.....

Or talk bout opening one mouth to change feet....

Just banning the use of helicopters/planes would give the fish a fighting chance.

 I use electronics to a massive advantage as a lot do... but that said I can still catch fish with out em especially those big inshore snapper. not rocket science. 

 We should ban Lure fishing as well, cause they have helped many people catch fish they wouldn't normally.

 Perhaps braid as well because now we can be actively catching fish for longer because the gears so much lighter

 Best get rid of the Four strokes too. Quieter and more efficient giving better stealth and more range. 

 And by god certainly Jig's because there lethal on the king fish and definitely Synit rods. 

 Problem is I like bling so by the time I take all this off half the fun is kind of gone as well :P... 

 That's one of your not so thought out questions Pugsy. 

 

 

I understood the question and in some respects I am in agreement. If the trawlers had only sounders/bird finding radar et al they would have to use experience/records to find the schools. A relatively small advantage to the fish I agree. As per my last post, the banning of helicopters/planes for spotting schools of fish would give the fish a fighting chance. The same for rec fishers. No fish finders or planes :-). As a couple have already said. They go on experience, records and skill.

The other side of the coin of course is commercially caught fish would/could become more expensive. Probably too expensive and there is also the chance of greater juvenile mortality.

Personally, I thought the question was thought provoking and worthwhile of a productive discussion. Not the venom that some have chosen to spew forth.

Cheers.

 

Could possibly  change the whole zoning and rights question.

 

Leave snapper1 as is and ban electronics ( fishfinding) on boats.

http://www.radardirect.co.nz/FAQ/faq.html

#1 yes

#2 no

Yup.

Just give the idiot a red card. Its not a thought provoking post at all just stirring the pot as usual.

Might be time to leave this site and go elsewhere for the real fisherman to talk about how to catch fish not this stupid BS!   

#4 yes,as he thinks he right but when a member tries to correct him.he either argues the point or changes subject,cannot have a real debate

If i were to listen to Pug who knows F All about fishing by sounds I wouldn't bother with the Whitianga area but I know better through other guys on here.

Why let the one rotten egg stink a place out?  

I am a diver and would fight like hell to retain use of my fish finder/depth sounder. Have used one for nearly 40 years of many different types.

A depth sounder gives you the depth under the boat and radar the distance to an object, boat or shoreline. 

Pugsy what you forget is that a lot of folk use their fish finder for other purposes than fishing. So forget this stupid idea as it will not happen.

 

I'm confused that this idiot is still allowed to post, JSF was slashed and in my opinion he was much better value than Puggy.

 The mere fact that the mod team have had to make his posts "pending approval"  after so many warnings suggests that he is stupid, with poor social skills and an inability to think.  I'm more and more convinved its actually Moggy, (same modus operandi)  who is so embarrassed by his pathetic fish fight debacle he has chosen a new handle.......

 Im not even going to dignify the question with a response, its that moronic.

But smudge I vote

What I am asking is - can the use of electronics in fishfinding  be managed or limited at commercial and recreational levels?

 

@muppet - I hope you remain on this site. If my threads irritate you then I recommend that you DO NOT READ THEM.Your problem is solved.

JSF took things more personally than Pugster. He was good for a laugh though

Pugwash could have my old set !

My post was a QUESTION that is open to debate so to refresh your memory it sort of goes like this - could electronics (fishfinders) be controlled in a way that assists with the reduction in catches in area's where there is a SERIOUS problem with over-fishing.

To me this is a legitimate topic and in NO way slags off anyone or any fishing philosophy.

The thing that concerns me is the voracious and abusive response by ( reputable members) asking for my banning, the leader amongst them being smudge....

@smudge - my posts since our - clarification - have been in accordance with your outline, non abusive, no confrontational. I'll remind you that we had an agreement and so far its YOU who's broken the goodwill. Threatening with - Pugwash or me - is a VERY LOW play smudge.

 

PS. Go across to - The REAL Whitianga Fishing - thread and show me where my ill intent is in my last report?....go on have a look....its alternative but has some facts if you are clever enough to interpret it.

 

 

 

maybe you could rename the other post to the real whitianga weather report?

The question you've posed is one of the more ridiculous ones I've seen on here and believe me I've seen a few beauties over 15 years. 

How about some interesting info from your area about what's going on rather than this convoluted bollocks you're posting. I've have a few marks for you to try and am waiting until I see something sensible coming from your keyboard before I PM them through ......

x100 votes for Smudge too.

 

He has hijacked a perfectly good Whitianga thread. The guys who post on it offered advice, where the fish are biting, baits used, what depth, time of day etc, 

I'm annoyed enough that just maybe I will pm the Whiti guys with my fishing reports.

Should f/finders be banned, hell yes, and while we are at lets ban all modern technology.

The real Whitianga fishing report is http://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/whitianga_topic106404.html" rel="nofollow - here and that other thread has been appropriately renamed. All is well in the world and it's a lovely day.....

 

Jesus Grunta you're lazy....if you look at the two threads - The Real Whitianga Fishing report and Pukefisher's you'll DISCOVER THAT MINE WAS POSTED FIRST on the - 30th of December and the other Whitianga report was posted on 2nd January........how does it go again - December, January, February etc 

 

Using profane expletives whilst calling the boss lazy ... dicing with death imo & will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

 

Ban WHO angler the guy that changed the name of the THREAD I STARTED ( to Pugwash is an eejit) and is clearly ratified by Grunta .........

Oh and to be 100% clear Grunta is NOT my BOSS, bazza.

What that means is that any posts you make will need to be approved by moderator before they are publicly viewable. 

You've had plenty of opportunity to be sociable and it's rather unfortunate that you have chosen not to be. This site enjoys characters, debate, interesting ideas, conjecture and so on. When many are saying enough's enough then you really didn't take heed of the conversation we had a few weeks ago and the many comments on here. 

I have had my fair share of "discussions" with the mods and I have chosen just to "walk away". If you truly disagree with someone's attitude, it is far better just to physically punch them in the nose ~ rather than a slagging war on social media. There are no winners in that situation.

 Words seem to urinate people off more than a good clock on the proboscis.

Why not let Pug post only in his latest thread. No others. No new subjects, no new threads. That way ~ (1) his admirers can join him and (2) his beraters know what to expect if they dare open the thread. (4) The moderators will soon get a handle of the numbers actually reading his drivel ~ to see if he is indeed attracting viewers for their advertisers (5) nobody is being "nanny state" banned

 

 

Just saying .......

 

If I had to vote ~ I would have my thumbs down ~ but then again ~ I would prefer looking at see through bikinis, rather than debating the merits of banning fish finders

I may start some threads like.

SHOULD BERLEY BE BANNED

SPEARO'S SHOULD GET SHOT

LIVEBAITING IS CRUEL 

I could do heaps more.

Point being any idiot can can put up rubbish like that on this site. No one should be offended because they don't have to read them do they?

But it takes work and dedication to post anything worthy of a real fishing report or knowledge to help others. Which I always thought was the point of this site. 

( I've obviously led a very sheltered life!!)

A polite way of saying idiot

It's Irish for idiot

I was mistakenly coming up with all sorts of explanations that were somewhat less flattering!

 

I must admit though, it does seem a tad abusive  for some posts that seemed totally harmless  even if a bit annoying to some.

 

I vote for keeping Pugwash!!! If George W. could become president of the US , it shows how far a villiage idiot can go.