Rigging stickbaits
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Topic: Rigging stickbaits
Posted By: Troutzilla
Subject: Rigging stickbaits
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2015 at 6:58pm
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Tie straight to the eye of bait or split ring and swivel?? Thoughts?? ------------- It aint no use if it aint chartreuse! |
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2015 at 7:12pm
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Carpenters prefer tied straight to lure but i use a swivel/split ring 90% of the time...plenty of ways......some people use crimps............the split ring/swivel is good for ease of changing lure....sure others will have their say. ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Pico
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2015 at 9:33pm
| I lost a couple of lures (with fish attached!) when tying straight to the lure, the wire on the lure straight through my knot. Now I use a split ring to a jigstar grommet |
Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2015 at 2:50pm
| does having the swivel affects how lure swims? |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2015 at 7:15pm
Try and find out.....If anything it gives them more freedom to move but if they are too heavy they can weigh down on the line and cause trouble....so match them to lure size/leader weight.......I have used this combo for a long time now for most of my stickbaits NT size 1 swivel with a 9mm decoy split ring(dull grey)= nice match........NT size 2 with 10mm decoy for big stick baits. The split rings are excellent and recoil well and the swivels are just bloody good......get yourself some decent split ring pliers too...."Kaveman" on here sells some good ones(i have a pair and they are great).
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DenimViper wrote:Posted By: Fishthat
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2015 at 11:46am
 Picked up a few of these from Top Catch the other day.. I'm no expert with rigging stick baits either, so first rig I used was straight to the nose with braid using a uni knot and the lure ring slowly cut through the braid so I tried a split ring/swivel and braid to swivel and it just started doing barrel rolls instead of doing sweeps like it did when it was tied straight to lure with no swivel, but I can't do that as it cuts through the braid. Any suggestions?
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Posted By: Attis
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2015 at 11:49am
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You need to use a shock leader. Depending on line weight, and what you're doing, about a rod length of 100lb or 130lb mono tied to the braid with a FG knot, and then to the lure with a uni knot. |
Posted By: Fishthat
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2015 at 12:05pm
| It's my light stick bait set, I'm using PE2.5 braid that breaks at somewhere around 60 or 70lb. This particular lure nose ring is not a rounded smooth, instead its been cut straight so there is for edges in total the line can rub against. Are you thinking the thicker mono will not get worn down and cut through? |
Posted By: Boxee
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2015 at 12:23pm
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Possibly like the new nomad lures, the through 'wire' is actually a CNC machined piece, and has quite a square profile. I would never tie with braid anywhere near the lure/jig as any teeth/rocks will cut you off, so always use a leader. But I'd probably suggest using Jigstar knot sleeves over your mono, if tying straight to the lure. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: strx7
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2015 at 1:25pm
| I always tie to solid ring which then has split ring going through it which attaches to lure. |
Posted By: Fishthat
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2015 at 1:28pm
Are you using a leader or straight to solid ring?
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Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2015 at 1:49pm
| Have to use leader mate. Even if it's a light setup use Min 80lb mono leader |
Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2015 at 1:53pm
Just got some 200lb fisherman split rings and two packs size 1 owner swivels. Confident it will do the trick  |
Posted By: Metal Float
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2015 at 8:56pm
I'm still trialling both (leader straight to lure and split/solid) but would a rapala knot be stronger and provide more lurer movement that a uni? Definitely need good splits/solids but perhaps hook quality is equalling, if not more, important.
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Posted By: infini
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 8:50pm
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SOM (Studio Ocean Mark) Ocean Snaps tied onto the end of leader - swap out lures in seconds with no split ring pliers etc... ------------- Photographer Fishing addict Cold beer enthusiast |
Posted By: strx7
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 9:09pm
60lb BM supple for most of it, or 80lb if in harsh area |
Posted By: Stellamoon
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 2:12pm
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SOM Ocean Snaps ( Studio Ocean Mark) Been using them for the past year and highly recommend them. Size 4 or 5 for inshore and 6 and 8 for Offshore . It's also really easy to change your lure as you don't require a set of split ring pliers.   ------------- https://topwaterspecialists.com/ |
Posted By: Spinoza
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 8:41pm
x2 for som snaps, used them for a few years in size 6 which is recommended for kingies, they released a ball bearing swivel version not too long ago which i bought a few packs of, but have yet to try them.
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them.Posted By: Fishthat
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 3:43pm
| Any recommendations for split rings, swivels, mono trace? I'll be fishing PE 2.5 & PE 6 braid |
Posted By: Wallopit
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2015 at 8:33pm
| owner split rings. NT swivels if you can get hold of them and trace depends on your budget theres so very good traces out there but you pay for them. I just use sufix zippy in 80 or 100lb (with pe5 or 6) you could use a 40 or 60 with your PE2.5 though. Its nice supple line and casts really well! |
Posted By: Fishthat
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 11:59am
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Posted By: Fishthat
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 12:09pm
Any brand of NT Swivels? There seems to be a lot of different NT Swivels. What size split rings for the PE 2.5 & PE6? I'm also going to be needing hooks for stick baits and poppers... |
Posted By: Wallopit
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 2:28pm
| Cant remember what brand of swivels dude. To be honest i wouldn't get too caught up on such specifics. basically you want the lure to float nice and up right not tilted over ( which it will do if something is unbalancing it also different lures will need to be rigged slightly different depending on rods so these things can take a bit of playing around once you're out on the water . A a good rule of thumb is that if it looks wrong it probably is. |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 6:49am
| The more movement points you make to your connection the harder and less effective it is swimming good stick baits with a lot of action. Ok for poppers or stick baits that have no real action in the first place of the likes that shimano put out. But unnecessary unless you believe it makes a difference in fighting the fish. I use a small grommet with a split ring threaded through. Even better is tied directly to the lure ultimately. But this creates issues with changing baits and breaking leader when using decent amount of drag, especially where you have been using split ring connections as these tend to scuff up the stainless loop. When I used to make lures I contemplated threading a grommet onto the stainless connection loop. Best solution for if wanting direct connection I could think of but never got around to it. |
Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 11:07am
Interesting thought fish i. What size grommet do you use and split ring? Keen to explore the idea of simpler connections as you say less is more. Meanwhile in Singapore I picked up some top water singles by Decoy. Have not seen these in NZ yet? One side of the eye has been pressed down for easier attachment to split ring  |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 8:04pm
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The decoy inlines are excellent ,as are their split rings(jigging ones)........they are far better than the owners....better recoil........they are a dull grey colour(for ref) here are the NT swivels...........the 2/0 is big........1/0 will do you with a 9mm split ring for 80 to 150 gram........very well priced as well and bloody strong.  ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 9:00pm
While in Singapore last week i picked up Decoy split rings and went to get a pack of NT size 2 and was told I get better price buying from bulk bag so i got 10 for $7 SD . Wish I got more stuff now  Do you rate fisherman splitrings and owner swivels? Be good to hear your feedback laidback |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 5:19am
I used to use owner splits but those decoys in your pic are better.....you open and close the owners a few times and they dont recoil as well........Nt Swivels are superb and cheap too....havent used fisherman stuff....didnt know owner did swivels .....i have just stuck to my personal preference but those clips that stellamoon mentioned look good.......have used something similar for squid jigs ......Convenient.
------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |