'Old school' snapper jigging rod?
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Heavy Metal - Jig fishing
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Printed Date: 28 Jan 2026 at 11:01am
Topic: 'Old school' snapper jigging rod?
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Subject: 'Old school' snapper jigging rod?
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2015 at 4:37pm
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...at the risk of upsetting Mr Fishus regarding questions about rods for specialist uses: I've been searching for a rod suitable for fishing 4oz elevator rigs and 100-120g 'old school' (eg Lethal Lure) jigs in work up situations out in the Hauraki Gulf - NOT slow jigs - in an overhead format. I'll match it with a Daiwa SL20 and 10lb Sufix braid.
I'm basically after the modern equivalent of the old Tisdalls glass jig rod I have in the basement. I presume things have advanced since 1990. I figure that slow jig rods are too bendy for correct traditional jigging with a Zest Leaf/Lethal lure/Blue Fox jig, and also twitching elevator rigs; and I guess soft bait overheads are probably too light - not designed to be fished with anything greater than about 1.5oz weight dangling off the end. Last thing I want is a breakage due to incorrect use. I'm considering an Okuma Nanomatrix 6'6" rod rated 6-10kg - described as 'overhead casting' - best price I can find is $179. Or maybe an Offshore Elite Pro66, which is also 6'6", rated 6-8kg ($270 at Fish City). I'd welcome input from the crew. |
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2015 at 6:12pm
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most old jigging rods were 7ft quite firm in the middle to gimbal yet fast tapper in the tip, reason mainly for this was you had no braid back then, but these days with no stretch you need to put some spring back in the rod, the idea of spring gives the lure a little bit of hesitation when your bottom bouncing its that which allows the fish time to grab it, when i say spring it means the rod has to come up tight before the lure starts to move again.... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2015 at 6:34pm
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http://www.gofish.co.nz/rods-reels/fishing-rods/kayak-rods/hearty-rise-tachio-overhead-rod-b601-4.html
Get on the phone to Greg at Gofish think these are on special I got one and slayed snaps to 10lb on it yesterday with softies and jigs.
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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2015 at 8:01pm
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Maybe an old Kilwell jellytip,or butterworth rod paired with a newell or pen jigmaster reel....... ------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: jonocoogee
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 6:49am
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are you looking for something with a similar action to the old jig rods, with a soft tip and a beefed up mid section? A lot of the rods these days are being made more parabolic. Seems to be more popular and makes life easier on the fisherman. I think both the rods you have mentioned should do the job. There is quite a bit on the market now which should cover the 100grm range. Have a talk to Chris at Rod and Reel in Newmarket, He is a bit of a snapper jig guru and should be able to point you in the right direction. ------------- TAS - Its a real disease |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 8:44am
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Thanks Lethal, as one of the pioneers, you should know. Do you mind revealing your outfit for yo-yoing 100g your original jigs these days? I've been on a few trips where bigger jigs and elevator rigs attract the best fish, while the Jitterbugs etc get hit by the schoolies. |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 8:50am
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thanks for the tip re Rod and Reel. I used to go there for trout fly tying gear, didn't realise they were into salt stuff too. I was lucky enough to use a Shimano Ocea slow jig rod on the weekend, which was ideal for inchiku jigs. But when I switched to a 4oz Berkeley elevator (which nailed my best fish of the trip) I felt the rod was too bendy to be able to strike at the bites I was getting - clearly it's designed for the requirements of slow jigging, when a soft action stops the small hooks ripping out. |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 8:55am
thanks Muppet. For a Villa supporter, you seem quite sensible .
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Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 9:53am
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Nah man, I aint upset :) Choose what ya need, just sometimes anglers (including me) can get a bit too obsessed over exact bendyness and weight etc etc), and sometimes its more about selling something than anything else. ------------- I always tell the truth about things that never happened |
Posted By: GSPOT
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 11:53am
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Hi, Interesting you are looking for this style rod. I have been building a couple of rods for my father and his old croanies on these Old style blanks 7' in length with a soft glass top section and stiffish reinforced butt. They like them as they are more forgiving than a modern designed carbon blank. PM me if you are interested. Otherwise a Diawa VIP would be similar. 
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Posted By: Fishinmad1
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 12:44pm
| I have an old school jelly tip blank rated for 10-15kg pm me if you're keen |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 1:25pm
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i know when i first tried jigging with braid on my old school jig rod i found it was really hard work, i found the braid was so in touch i didn't have to move the rod much at all, well not the long strokes of yesteryear, now that also become a problem, with nylon the stretch would allow the jig to sit there a mil a second or two before moving then it would come up tight if a fish had grabbed it, but now with braid it would be whipped away before the fish was able to grab it, so you had to change action slow lift half the distance and then drop, by doing this the rod/jig become a weapon again.... the truth be know i find the Kaburus/Sliders work even better these days drop and slowly wind cant be much easier than that. LOL, im am convinced just be patient. ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: muchalls
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 1:27pm
| What do you reckon to the Daiwa 870 15-40lb rated? Fairly fast action..... |
Posted By: The Tamure Kid
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 3:52pm
Hi again Muppet, talked to GoFish but unfortunately they sold the last one yesterday! Typical of my luck. As you suspected, was down to $129 on sale! 
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 4:35pm
| Oooh thats unlucky went in this morning none there was 2 or 3 last week nice rods you missed a bargain. The 10% fibreglass makes them feel old school. |
Posted By: Fishinmad1
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 5:06pm
| Gspot, I really like the look of your 3D Chevron wrap, a few hours there I figure. |
Posted By: GSPOT
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 9:42am
Yes there is a few hours there. A professional rod wrapper can probably knock it out quite quick but as it is only the 2nd wrap I have done it takes a bit to keep it all even. The old guys i have built the rods for likes the forgiving nature of the fiberglass esp for stray-lining with mono. Also can handle a few more bumps about the back of the boat.
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Fishinmad1 wrote:Posted By: Fishinmad1
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 3:53pm
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Hi GSPOT, How do you find mudhole? I got sick of Conagans lack of stock and poor selection, they were fine in the late 90's when I was making lots of rods. had a trade account then so I brought most of their stock, and I am just running out now. got a couple of sets of ALPS guides from Exclusive Tackle in Aussie, but they are expensive. Like $220.00 for the 2 sets some thread and wrap finish. So I think now if I make rods for people they can source the blank and components, because Kilwell is the same now that Cliff Palmer is gone, all they are worried about is the Asians stealing their Nano Tech, if they want it all they have to do is buy one of their made up rods and strip it down Duh!
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Posted By: GSPOT
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2015 at 9:00am
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They are Ok. I have been using NZ posts Youshop for shipping as it is a lot cheaper. If you order $149 it is free shipping in the US and then it was only $30NZ to ship to NZ. Mudhole wanted to charge $70US.
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