Action cameras??????
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Topic: Action cameras??????
Posted By: like_to_strike
Subject: Action cameras??????
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 7:43pm
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Basically I'm looking for a action cam, don't want to spend too much as I'm not desperate to video my fishless trips but think it would be neat to capture those moments you always seem to have when fishing alone! The market is flooded with choices now and every website states different battery life figures! so preferably want to hear about what your using or know a little real world figures about. My criteria, I would love a set an forget cam, Id love to be able to press record at the start of a trip and stop at the end, multiple battery changes will put me off. wrecks the simplicity of it. longer the battery life the better. fumbling with batterys on a kayak doesn't sound fun. happily settle for 720p 30fps ok but 60 would be good. must be small as its likely to be head mounted. waterproof a must so what have you had experience with? appreciate the input |
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Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 8:27pm
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Go and look at the Drift Ghost S if you can stretch or the original Ghost, far better cameras for filming fishing than GoPro. If you can get hold of Fish and Game magazine (most book shops have it), I just wrote a 2 page article on action cams for fishing with all the info you'll need to know. Definitely use 60fps if you intend doing any slow motion stuff. I have also used Contour, Sony and GoPro extensively. The Drift runs rings around all of them, especially in regards to battery life, double the GoPro and far easier to use. If you're uploading to Youtube, video quality is irrelevant as Youtube down-samples the hell out of any footage, another reason why 4k is totally pointless for online viewing via popular mediums. Andrew ------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/troutboynz |
Posted By: part-timer
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 10:25pm
Are they available in NZ yet? or only through the internet? J
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flyfisher wrote:Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 10:42pm
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Just through online sites part-timer. www.basenz.com in Wanaka sell them as does a few other online retailers, always had good service from Base. The Drift network is nowhere near as extensive as GoPro which have a truly massive marketing machine. Action cameras are a funny item, I reckon at least 90% of the people who buy them, use them once or twice then stick them in a draw never to be used again... filming is easy, uploading, editing and soundtracks are hard! ------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/troutboynz |
Posted By: part-timer
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 11:05pm
Thanks for the reply mate... I had a quick look online at them... I think basenz was one of the links that came up.. I do a lot of gamefishing for the love of it... spending many days on the water each summer... but we catch very few... so the ones we get... I would like to have a better visual record of... every fish is prescious ! And with a small crew on board... we cant spare a person clicking away on a camera. I was looking to have a camera mounted up on a pole for the playing of the fish... then bringing it down for hand held once the fish is ready for release... that sort of thing.. Im not interested in sharing at this stage... just recording for my family viewing.. Do you think this camera will do the trick? Cheers James |
Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2015 at 11:25pm
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Absolutely, the very best part, and one factor that every other action camera doesn't have, is dedicated timestamp video tagging (great for game fishing), so basically you can record all day and NEVER miss a strike. Here's an extract from my article to explain it a bit better. "Video tagging to my mind is the single most important feature to look for on a camera for filming fishing. What it does in simple terms is; the camera is constantly recording, however it is not saving the footage to your memory card. On the Drift Ghost S, I have video tagging set to a 2minute interval. So what does this do? Say I hook a fish… I simply tap the remote located on my wrist after I hook-up… the camera will
automatically start saving to the memory card, saving back footage 2 minutes
prior to that point (The hookup)… the current 2 minutes (playing the fish)… and the next 2
minutes after that (The release). What this does is ensure you NEVER miss
capturing that all important strike and the build up to that moment which
really makes a clip. Video tagging can be set to much longer intervals as well, but for most battles with our freshwater denizens, 6 minutes total tagging time seems about right, if it is a prolonged scrap, tapping the remote again will add a further 2 minutes onto the recording and so on. More importantly, this also negates having hours and hours of footage to trawl back through when editing, leaving you with just the segments you ‘want’ to include in your clip, a very handy and time saving feature......" ------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/troutboynz |
Posted By: part-timer
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2015 at 8:55pm
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Thanks for the reply flyfisher. That particular feature is really good... I think I may have read your reveiw before actually... it rings a bell.. Cheers J |
Posted By: like_to_strike
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2015 at 9:41pm
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I am definatly going to be looking into that ghost-s camera. That video tagging feature sounds like the go when it comes to capturing random events and hookups. What sort of real life battery times do you get? |
Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2015 at 9:45pm
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About 3-3.5 hours continuous recording and using the LCD / wrist remote on full 1080 and 60fps - sometimes a bit more depends on ambient temperature, this is using aftermarket Wasabi batteries from eBay, they last very well and are only about $20ea... I carry about 10 to last a full weekend without charging. The Ghost range is slightly larger and heavier than the GoPro, but still absolutely fine head-mounted if reqd. I don't really notice it wearing for 10 hours plus a day. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/troutboynz |
Posted By: like_to_strike
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2015 at 6:08am
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They seem the business, have you ever had any problems with it? the way
the pricing is id more than likely buy from amazon, for 570ish
depending on our $ with all the extras i would need http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q3DIQUY/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687742&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00GJRCPRO&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0X186BA1KKQ208TT1G6N" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q3DIQUY/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687742&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00GJRCPRO&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0X186BA1KKQ208TT1G6N Plus an extra 20 for 2 wasabi batteries and standalone charger If i was to buy local it would need to be 2nd hand, 570 is over my limit anyway but with xmas on the horizon it could change! cheers for the feedback mate |
Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2015 at 9:39am
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Hi Flyfisher Looking at video of the Ghost S it doesn't have stabilization so how would it be on the trailer boat? What's the sound recording like? I like to have real sound with my video not music. Like the waterproof and the battery change out features. Would rather have a smaller field of view too. Both our Contour roams have packed up being used in the sea. |
Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2015 at 11:13am
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I think the Sony is the only one with true stabilisation Krow. I have never had an issue with it, even head mounted as you'll see on my Youtube clips. On a boat is fine, unless you're smashing into a short hard chop, in fact the boat mounted footage is excellent I found - really stable. Here is some sample Ghost S footage from earlier this year in various situations. (using a polariser here, hence blue sky hues). This is 1080 and 60fps with standard bit rate, there is a high bit rate setting, but it's not required for Youtube IMO. It has an external Mic input, so that helps if you want sound. I don't use sound on my clips so not an issue, external mics are cheap as however. Use at sea is hard on cameras, the Ghost(s) I have had lasted very well (some minor corrosion on the body screws), I don't use them underwater though, if you want underwater footage, a GoPro in a case is the best bet, but any camera used underwater then pulled back into sun will fog - they all do it. The Ghost S has far superior image quality than the Contours, I used to use the Roam, still a great, albeit, basic camera for filming. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/troutboynz |
Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2015 at 5:46pm
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Posted By: like_to_strike
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2015 at 7:38pm
| Do you know if the remote is waterproof also? |
Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2015 at 7:58pm
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No, the say it's splash proof. I dunk mine under when releasing trout though all the time and have not had an issue, so they must be somewhat waterproof. You can wear round you neck, keep in pocket etc. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/troutboynz |
Posted By: Gareth15765
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2015 at 10:39pm
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the biggest thing with the action cameras to be aware of is the editing software most cameras are easy to use and take great footage but it can all be undone by crappy editing software I use the go pro cineform software (only works with go pro footage )and is easy to use with great results
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Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2015 at 11:13pm
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Veery good advice alright, filming is easy... editing takes the time! ------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/troutboynz |
Posted By: like_to_strike
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2015 at 5:55am
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yep, been through video editing dramas before! its pretty much the whole reason i learnt to build my own PCs, far more bang for buck! |
Posted By: Chip'n
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2015 at 11:27am
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how does this camera compare to others? http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/redalert?utm_source=redalertsunday30august2015&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=redalertsunday30august2015&utm_content=Product+2+WIFI+action+camera+ION+air-pro+2+$299
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Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2015 at 7:54pm
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Cheers for the info Andrew I now own a Ghost s . If anyone is going to import some of those $20.00 batteries I'm keen. |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 11:41am
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[QUOTE=flyfisher]Just through online sites part-timer. www.basenz.com in Wanaka sell them as does a few other online retailers, always had good service from Base. The Drift network is nowhere near as extensive as GoPro which have a truly massive marketing machine. Action cameras are a funny item, I reckon at least 90% of the people who buy them, use them once or twice then stick them in a draw never to be used again... filming is easy, uploading, editing and soundtracks are hard! [/QUOTE I am trying to find where to buy the head strap in NZ, I spoke to Base they dont (if they did they would be over priced) spoke to the importer and thats like getting blood out of a stone, Also I remember you mounting a camera on a cap - how is that going? I dont like the idea off the bricks as will sink pretty quick.. As for under water I have the underwater housing - the is all mounted to a 14 foot gaff for those under water shots , Also what settings would you suggest for the camera to get the best video(hate the fish bowl effect), I have used the camera at night with light bar attached to a quad and it works well Do you find the cameras fog up easy- (lcd screen) when its cold, have found the camera needs to be in the UW housing when really cold to stop this... ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 11:42am
I'm pretty keen to get some ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2015 at 9:38pm
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I've talked my Son to get these for me from AUZ (they don't deliver outside Auz) http://www.betterbatt.com.au/s/camcorder-battery/drift/hd-ghost/BBCB-347/?utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=drift-hd-ghost&utm_campaign=camcorder-battery&gclid=CjwKEAjw1_KwBRDEz_WvncL4jGwSJAAEym0d68QgqHnkcLrW844DylkoMJeo8373DCALKldbiNr9RRoCMSvw_wcB" rel="nofollow - http://www.betterbatt.com.au/
and charger
http://www.betterbatt.com.au/s/battery-charger/drift/hd-ghost/BBBC-347/" rel="nofollow - http://www.betterbatt.com.au/ |
Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2015 at 1:18pm
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Not sure I've seen a head-strap Scuzzy, but all the straps I ever tried with Contour and GoPro were useless anyway as move around too much. I modified a Macpac cap (stiff - Aztec fabric) which works well, I think there is no substitute for head mounting to be honest for fishing. Cap-cam detailed here: http://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/evolution-of-the-capcam_topic89799.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/evolution-of-the-capcam_topic89799.html Fish bowl happens when you tilt your head down. Keep your head level(ish) and not pointed down or up and you won't get it, in saying that, the Ghost is not as bad as the GoPro and Sony's IMO despite having a similar FOV. I always record in 1080 60p as I like to use slow motion and mix in with my point and shoot video, but in reality 720fps is fine for Youtube. Yes, my LCD screen fogs, I don't know anyone who doesn't have this issue, it causes no harm and I just cannot get rid of it, only happens on hot sunny days for me, you can usually still read the screen fine. I have no idea why they make cameras predominantly black! The Drift also has the least lens fogging of all the action cameras I have used. GoPro was terrible for it inside it's wee acrylic oven and resorting to anti-fog pads was a pain and expensive! I have found the importer pretty average as well - same old story, just don't think they know, nor use their products! I see Drift deliver to NZ now though from their website which is good. Amazon sell the Wasabi's as well with a free charger, I think it's getting harder to import batteries though due to stupid regulatory PC rubbish. They are awesome batteries, easy consistent 3 hours +. http://www.amazon.com/Wasabi-Power-Battery-Charger-Ghost-S/dp/B00BYGSD6M" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Wasabi-Power-Battery-Charger-Ghost-S/dp/B00BYGSD6M ------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/troutboynz |
Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2015 at 9:36pm
| Thanks yet again Andrew. This looks to be a better deal. Is that freight free over $50.00 international as well? Anyone want to get one and have an account? Combine to get free freight. |