bait feeder reels whats ones are good?
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Topic: bait feeder reels whats ones are good?
Posted By: sappercatcha
Subject: bait feeder reels whats ones are good?
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 3:09pm
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well I do 70% of my snapper fishing with a shimano bait runner 3500b its perfect for staylineing I find it hard to use drum reels for straylineing as I have one good hand the over is average at best.... also 90% of my fishing in the past 5 years has been on the kaipara harbour straylineing in the shallows (on sand) and catching fish from 350mm upto 500mm as a norm with some bigger ones thrown in (my pb for the kaipara is 6.1kg) which I love and will continue to do as much as possible now my dad has just got back from 5 years over seas he loves fishing the east coast straylineing down a burley with big baits for the bigger fish quite often on rough bottom and it looks like ill be getting dragged out east more offen (I know poor me lol) and in those conditions im not convinced that my little 3500 with 6kg mono is going to have the grunt to keep the monster from getting to ground.... so finally to the question looking for a bigger bait runner or similar reel about 4500-6500 size I know the shamanos are good im more interested in what you guys/ladys think if the other options as most good brands make bait feeders these days and most are cheaper than the shimano the penn slamer the couple of daiwa options the tica okuma make a couple aswell the options and endless the thing is I dond mind spending the money if its going to buy me the good one but if I can get the same sort quality for less money im always keen
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Posted By: Contract
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 3:22pm
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My opinion FWIW ? Shimano make the best ones (their older series are better than the current ones) Most of the other makers just try to emulate them and put brighter anodizing on theirs  OKUMA have some incredible drag capacities and I do rate them I have both ~ but prefer my Shimano I am sure you will get many other opinions. Just like boats ~ there ain't no such thing as "the perfect reel"
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Posted By: Downtown
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 3:40pm
| I've got an OC 4000 and a thunnus 4000 both are good reels but you can feel the extra quality of the thunnus over the OC. Have caught legal kings and decent snaps on both in the rough stuff so don't get to put off by the smaller sizes they can still do the damage. I did win a penn liveliner awhile back and that was ok but I passed it on to a mate and as far as i'm aware its still going fine for him. |
Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 4:29pm
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half way down this blog by Alan Hawke is your answer..... They are referred to as free-lining reels. http://www.alanhawk.com/blog/wr15.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.alanhawk.com/blog/wr15.html ------------- "I love standing by the ocean and just knowing what its for" |
Posted By: Contract
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 4:41pm
| Good article. Not too sure if I would want him to cook roast lamb for me, though ! |
Posted By: letsgetem
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 4:51pm
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Ive had 4 Penn Slammers Liveliners (560 x 2,760) - and in all of them, the bait runner switch has failed - either stays on or off. I wouldn't buy another. Ive got one Shimano - a Big Longcast, bait runner and everything else has worked fine - I would buy another.
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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 5:28pm
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We have both Shimano and okuma Wife prefers the okumas I dont mind have / use both Personally I think a lot of reliability like most things, depends on good care and maintenance |
Posted By: CarlW
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 6:38pm
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I have a Shimano BTR 4000D and the Penn 560 LL. Got the 560 first and thought it was great for the price, no trouble with it so far (2+ years) and does the job on snapper. Then I got the 4000D and it was such a step up from the Penn (granted it did cost a little more), so smooth and has even battled by-catch kingi's up to 8kg without too much fuss. If you're on a budget the Penns will do a job for you, but like most things the more you pay the more reliability and performance you get ------------- “My biggest worry is that my wife (when I’m dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I said I paid for it.” |
Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 7:03pm
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The new penn liveliners have a sealed gear box and very good grease from the factory, highly recommend these for stray lining ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: Snappa Geoff
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 7:29pm
| Sappercatcha if $$$ not the issue you can't go past Shimano Thunnuss. Penn would be my next choice. |
Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 7:57pm
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Darren why don't you look at a low profile baitcaster. That's what I've using. I little more maintenance but you can't beat them for stray lining. Thumb on the spool then crank the handle when the fish runs. I also use a shimano 4000D with 6kg braid and about 10 metres of 10kg mono. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 8:08pm
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Darryn, I have two Thunnus reels. Rather expensive I guess but they are very nice. If I had a criticism of them it is that they have more drag capacity than they really need. That is pretty much true of most modern spin reels IMO. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 8:37pm
I have a dawia lexa hs-p400 mate its great but I do find it hard to free spool the fish and click into gear with out getting over runs with my hands being not great ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Kandrew wrote:Posted By: Juan night only
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 8:52pm
| I use the Okuma avenger ABF80, could probably go smaller but I like that it has 15kg drag if I need it. Would like a nice shiny Shimano but the Okuma does a fine job. |
Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 8:55pm
I think this might be the plan a little saveing but im not scared of putting some cash into my gear the reason for asking this question I geuss was I find brands live on rep like in my hunting everyone swears by leupold scopes and they are good no doubt and I have a couple but there is lesser known brands that are better and cheaper for example the Nikon monarch is the same if not slightly better at half the cost it doesn't sound like this is the case with a shimano so ill stick with that ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: CoastalStan
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 10:01pm
| I have a spare Thunnus 8000 spooled with 10kg Momoi that's hardly been used, happy to let it go for $300 |
Posted By: Reel Deal
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 11:02pm
Had the same dilemma. Have the old shimano 10Kg 4500? set up and its never failed me and Ive been a total pig in the way I have treated it, its my "go to" rod in NZ. yes Im pretty transparent ...two very deep drams have hit the spot.nite all ------------- The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of men's lives the hours spent on fishing - Assyrian Proverb |
Posted By: catch1t
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2015 at 2:43pm
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Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2015 at 7:26pm
cheers for the offer mate but if i go down the thunnus route ill buy new and get the 10 year warrenty is good insureance to have when sinking cash into something your going to use hardout also will be looking at the 12000 ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2015 at 7:29pm
dont mock the old handline tony if you know that your doing with one you can be just as deadley as with a rod and reel ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: Don18025
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2015 at 8:40pm
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Sapper, I have both the 6500B loaded with nylon and 3500B top loaded with 100 metres of 15 kg braid. I like both reels but prefer the 3500B on the East Coast. Lighter unit, easier to hold and just as effective as the 6500B. I admit the 6500B I can cast further, larger spool and longer rod. You should be able to use the 3500B on a good rod and not loose to many fish. Get another spool for it with some heavier line.
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Posted By: Boyo
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2015 at 7:48pm
| A couple of years ago I bought an Okuma Citrix bait caster for my wife to use as she has a little arthritis in her hand and found the Shimano 6500 too heavy. On the first outing my wife found it was brilliant to use and I liked it so much I used to use it when she wasn't with me. She ended up buying me one for Christmas last year and to be honest unless I am targeting Kingies it is what I use all the time. It has a rated drag of 11 kgs (to be honest it is more like 8 kgs) but is just brilliant to use and easy to cast once you conquer the spool thumbing. Apparently it is one of the few bait casters that have a clicker so that is great to use to prevent overruns while it is in the rod holder. Both our set ups are matched to 6 - 10 kg X Factor rods. Had it out at Raglan last week giving it a workout on huge Kahawai and midsized sharks. Check them out. |
Posted By: SNOWKIWI
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2015 at 4:49pm
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I have a couple of 6500B's one loaded with nylon, the other with braid. I also have a Thunnus loaded with braid, Thunnus is by far the better reel IMHO, done some work. But I had the 6500B's before the Thunnus, and they have performed very well. Always washed after use, with drags firm, left out in the sun to dry, before getting a coat of Tackle Guard, drags released and the reels put to bed till their next outing. Can't really fault anything Shimano that I have owned! ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> It is to be observed that 'angling' is the name given to fishing, by people who can't fish. |
Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2015 at 4:57pm
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to be honest I think I might save up and get a thunnus and a good rod bills to pay 1st might het some braid for the 3500 in the mean time ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2015 at 9:45pm
| 8000 thunnus darryn, nothing better i reckon. |
Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2015 at 11:01pm
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why the 8000 and not the 12000? ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2015 at 11:20pm
| bit lighter than the 12000, could still use 15kg mono if you had too - fishing 2-3 m doesn't require a big line capacity either! |
Posted By: sappercatcha
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2015 at 12:42pm
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im fishing deeper on the east will continue to use the little 3500b on the kaipara for shallow water the 8000 with baid might be the go for the deeper stuff dose the thunnus come with two spools? ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> keep up the good work boys
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2015 at 12:48pm
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Thunus all the way doesn't come with second spool & there not cheap but you get them from Shimano NZ. ------------- Tight lines PE Pete |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2015 at 6:46pm
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I haven't used a 1200 but they are huge compared to the 8000, which deals to the big tope well thunnus is a great reel can even handle a big gurnard :-) ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |