Micro jigs
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Topic: Micro jigs
Posted By: Redfinger
Subject: Micro jigs
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 5:30pm
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These are starting to work very well for me. Interested in what weight people are using , depth etc. Popular brands and why?
For me the Shimano ones were pretty consistent - 30gr - just found a couple of imported ones same weight with hook top and bottom (tassled as well) and they were simply outstanding yesterday on the pannie snaps in the channel.
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Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:18pm
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How are ya fishing them yup they ae wicked i have a massive collection
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:20pm
Been using the "braid " jigs, purple is definatly my favourite colour, shimano ones are good but found the paint doesnt last
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:28pm
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Hi guys, Green guy - I fish them a little like the softies - drop but watch very closely as it nears the bottom .Often gets hit while it "flutters". Usually twitch them up a few mtres then give alot of slack and watch braid like a hawk. Again this fluttery drop seems to be the key for me lately. Can be plagued with small snaps but often i am forced to fish in the local channels and there are just more smaller fish I suppose. Fishing mostly 9-16m
braid jigs - who does those Wayne? Purple is an interesting colour. The glow silver one i used was a standout yesterday. I wonder if the tassles on the hooks make a difference. One of the hooks had 75% of the tassles bitten off. Who supplies micro assist hooks 1/0 with tassles as singles?
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Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:28pm
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Haven't seen them one's Wayne, what brand and ware ya getting em from. I like the colt Shimano jigs, but i keep bending the tips of the hooks, have all so got a few from rod and reel dunno what they are though but they weren't cheap
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Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:31pm
Redfinger wrote:
Hi guys, Green guy - I fish them a little like the softies - drop but watch very closely as it nears the bottom .Often gets hit while it "flutters". Usually twitch them up a few mtres then give alot of slack and watch braid like a hawk. Again this fluttery drop seems to be the key for me lately. Can be plagued with small snaps but often i am forced to fish in the local channels and there are just more smaller fish I suppose. Fishing mostly 9-16m
braid jigs - who does those Wayne? Purple is an interesting colour. The glow silver one i used was a standout yesterday. I wonder if the tassles on the hooks make a difference. One of the hooks had 75% of the tassles bitten off. Who supplies micro assist hooks 1/0 with tassles as singles? |
Rod and Reel in New Market have a massive selection of assit rigs
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:32pm
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Yeah me old mate Ben Starns told me to come in - i must do but the boys at work will shoot me if they find out!
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Posted By: 700 LTR
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:59pm
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Redfinger when you say work them up a few meters do you mean like mechical jig them up? Buggered if I can get mine to work..........
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 8:18pm
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I suppose that could work too but no.... I simply lift the rod with a couple of wrist flicks until my hand is about shoulder level (it is a bugger when one grabs at the highest lift point!) then drop the rod quickly to create uninterrupted free fall or flutter as jig drops unimpeded with no drag. Always make sure I am very close to the bottom - particularly in the channels.
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Posted By: 700 LTR
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 8:25pm
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Choice thanks ill give that a go!
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Posted By: nzfishwhisperer
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 9:16pm
green guy wrote:
Haven't seen them one's Wayne, w<span style="line-height: 1.4;">hat brand and ware ya getting em from.</span>I like the colt Shimano jigs, but i keep bending the tips of the hooks, have all so got a few from rod and reel dunno what they are though but they weren't cheap |
Hi green guy this link will take you to the braid micro jigs just click on the tab once in there - there is two types but plenty of weights and color to play with - you can get these at any pro dealer tackle store (Pure fishing NZ) bring them in
http://www.fishwhisperer-purefishing.com/97757713
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 9:20pm
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I see blueblue do a range of these micro jigs that you can cast and retrieve sorta like cross between a soft bait and stick bait or fish them as a true micro-jig...
They look interesting but am wondering if any other jigs can be fished like this land based?
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 8:46am
I find mixing the way you present a 20g or less micro jig - very fast jerks upward jerks and a retrieve wind or two - very aggressive in 40m and leave fall, then small blips...its a real tease approach and change change and change again the action. The lighter you line and leader weight the better results (as long as you aren't in deep foul). Magic fun to catch fish when the bite has 'stopped'. Awesome fun.
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 10:21am
I have noticed here in NZ we are classing the newer flat fall and smaller casting jigs from 20-80g as Mirco's. In effect they are small slow pitch jigs that can be cast, where micro jigging in Asia is anything from 3-20g and not limited to just the flat fall type jigs.
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 12:29pm
green guy wrote:
Haven't seen them one's Wayne, w<span style="line-height: 1.4;">hat brand and ware ya getting em from.</span>I like the colt Shimano jigs, but i keep bending the tips of the hooks, have all so got a few from rod and reel dunno what they are though but they weren't cheap |
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 12:42pm
Espresso wrote:
I find mixing the way you present a 20g or less micro jig - very fast jerks upward jerks and a retrieve wind or two - very aggressive in 40m and leave fall, then small blips...its a real tease approach and change change and change again the action. The lighter you line and leader weight the better results (as long as you aren't in deep foul). Magic fun to catch fish when the bite has 'stopped'. Awesome fun.
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30 years ago we found that to be the best advise for catching fish, the next was staying in touch with your metal jig, very the action, long strokes with the rod or short which ever works on the day, like with most lure fishing from a boat, drifting speed is the biggest factor,
i found quite often the top of the lift was where a lot of fish hit the lure, i guess it was, they would follow then as you stopped lifting they hit, trouble with that is you now had no contact or any idea the fish was holding your jig, yes lots to learn guys and can be very rewarding when condition are favorable and the fish are plenty,
RB and i had a quick contest a couple of years ago where he used Soft Baits i used a 60gm Lethal lure jig on 6kg nylon no leader just double line, result Jig won....
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 3:06pm
I must admit I am guilty of going too heavy at times esp. with leaders - need to get back to basics I guess
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Posted By: 1Daz
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 4:14pm
Espresso wrote:
I find mixing the way you present a 20g or less micro jig - very fast jerks upward jerks and a retrieve wind or two - very aggressive in 40m and leave fall, then small blips...its a real tease approach and change change and change again the action. The lighter you line and leader weight the better results (as long as you aren't in deep foul). Magic fun to catch fish when the bite has 'stopped'. Awesome fun.
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How light do you go with line and leader on your micro jigging set ups espresso?
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 4:46pm
Hi 1Daz - I prefer using 2lb braid and 10lb leader, but will go up to 10lb braid and 15lb leader if the bigger snapper or kings are around - they work a treat in the right situation 
MIB - yes you are correct, micro jigging is ...well a micro jig, generally accepted as 20gms or less in Asia and most other countires as this is the definiition of a micro jig. Jigs that are labelled as micro jigs here in NZ have up to 80gm 'micro jigs'...these are not micro jigs. High performing micro jigs can often utilize different rod/reel/line weight/jig shape/hook placement/hook gauge and so on than the heavier jigs.
Yeah Lethal I find that a definitive PAUSE in the ascent and/or descent of the jig at times will help get the jig attacked more - surprisingly so. Try everything you can in terms of action and find the right one as you say on the day.
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Posted By: fishoooo
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 5:18pm
Talk about complicated 
Slow pitch, slow jigs, long fall, slow pitch/long fall, soft-baits, micro jigs, knife jigs (all with different products/brands). And then all the different movements that apparently work - quick retrieve, slow retrieve, cast ahead, bounce, random retrieve, try anything and hope retrieve.
Anything that wont work?
Is it true that such a wide range of jigs are needed because one works better on the day or is it more that by the time we put the 'different' jig in the water the conditions have changed i.e a school of fish, cloud cover or more tide run?
Either way it's got me hooked 
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Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 6:01pm
Are you guys finding that these fish are engulfing the lures or are you getting more of a lip hook, size of fish taken into account. Oh and I do mean micro jigs.
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Posted By: fishoooo
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 6:10pm
MATTOO wrote:
Are you guys finding that these fish are engulfing the lures or are you getting more of a lip hook, size of fish taken into account. Oh and I do mean micro jigs. |
Smallest I've used is 30gram, so not sure if that is a true micro, but all where lip hooked.
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 6:13pm
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 7:02pm
fish do engulf the lures but because they are hard their teeth slid off and the hook are imbedded into the lips, after constantly hooking lots of fish have a good look at your jig it will have indents/paint scrapped marks on it, some will even have like skid marks where you can see the teeth have slipped down the jig....
the best fish to hook are ones that are actively chasing bait fish as the the jig will fit right in if its around the size they are eating...
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 7:04pm
All lip hooked. I find that a single hook works best for me, correctly sized to the jig, too big and it slows the bite considerably, two hooks the same and to me are like trebles and I take one hook off it the jig comes with two. Also the hook should be at the end where the eye is if it has one IMHO, fish attack another at the head/belly area - on several jigs of mine the teeth marks of snapper are obvious in this region (notably the bigger jigs mind you).
Single hook, right size, eye end of jig, light leader you can handle and lightwieght braid...easy as.
Grim Reaper - yes the number of jigs 'needed' depends on your desired results, like most tackle I guess. I'm finding lately the more I have, the more I swap around and try, and adjust to the situation - and have had more success, not saying I'm great at it I certainly have a whole heap to learn and improve, that'll never change but definitely changing to the 'right' jig can be the difference between high interest tags and hookups - and no stupid fish here! Weight shape size target species current drift speed water depth all impact on what jig style/size/shape will be most successful. Sure snapper and kingfish will hit almost anythng when they are completely fizzed up, but it's the 80% of the time they aren't fizzed that you need the options for..and that's when micro jigs are a good option to try, when there isn't a mental bite.
Fun fishing with micros in any depth of water, I was using micros yesterday in 65m deep water and they were 'O' for awesome 
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 8:44pm
Agree that all fish i have caught on "sub 30g" jigs are lip hooked but i definately prefer double hook rigs One hook can hide behind a wide bodied jig and you miss your chance( unlike s/baits snapper rarely come back for a second hit after tasting metal) My new series arrived today so will post some pics shortly
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Posted By: 1Daz
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 8:59pm
Awesome info espresso. So do you usually start off using the lightest jig possible and working your way up in weight until you find the size thats working?
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 9:24pm
1Daz wrote:
Awesome info espresso. So do you usually start off using the lightest jig possible and working your way up in weight until you find the size thats working? |
Hi Darren.. you cant go changing your line weight and leader weight for every scenario or you would need 20 different rods and reels with every possible weight option. if you are fishing light micros(sub20g) 4-6lb braid and up to 15lb leader would work well 20-40g jigs then 8-12lb braid and 20lb leader and any heavier you can use up to 20lb braid and 30-40lb leader. Just a general rule off course, you will get more strikes but loose a lot more gear going real light and that can hurt the pocket but the rewards are greater when you master it
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Posted By: Starnsy
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2015 at 10:15pm
I find naming a technique based on its jig weight really a rather frivolous exercise to be honest.. However, when fishing 'micro' I generally find myself somewhere between 9-40g, this selection will be based around depth, current, drift speed, application, bait size and so on and so forth... In terms of line weight, go as light as you feel comfortable, I find I'm generally around pe1 and 16lb.
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Posted By: 1Daz
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 12:34am
kaveman wrote:
1Daz wrote:
Awesome info espresso. So do you usually start off using the lightest jig possible and working your way up in weight until you find the size thats working? |
Hi Darren.. you cant go changing your line weight and leader weight for every scenario or you would need 20 different rods and reels with every possible weight option. if you are fishing light micros(sub20g) 4-6lb braid and up to 15lb leader would work well 20-40g jigs then 8-12lb braid and 20lb leader and any heavier you can use up to 20lb braid and 30-40lb leader. Just a general rule off course, you will get more strikes but loose a lot more gear going real light and that can hurt the pocket but the rewards are greater when you master it
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Lol, nah I meant do you just start off with say a 7g or as light as possible, like soft baiting and jig heads..... lightest jig head to get to the bottom, use the lightest micro jig you can get away with... wasn't meaning changing set ups
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 8:07am
Lol, yes gotcha, with softbaits i try to use the lightest possible to get to the bottom,, doesnt seem to matter as much with jigs that flutter, as they are slower getting down anyway and you can jig them in and around the water depth that you think the fish are. Hope that makes sense I tend to use casting jigs more over sand bottom so it doesnt matter if they hit the bottom, in fact it is good to let them sit there for a few seconds especially when snapper are feeding hard on the bottom.
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 8:09am
...1Daz I'll usually start the day fishing with some proven go-to lures to determine what level of interest there is down there...so usually if in say 40m, I start with a 60gm if drift speed slow enough...then go up or down depending on what's working, or just what I want to enjoy doing for the day. Yes I do sometimes just go out with only Micro in mind and have a change of attitude to pure enjoyment not necessarily quantity or size, just thrills. I will also tend to change jigs a lot...maybe trying a dozen or two in a day. Mind you a lot of that is working out why something might be working, the good the bad and the ugly of different jigs, sifting between the fantasy and facts. A day on jigs yes I take out 7 or 8 different rod/reel combos covering a wide range of scenarios as I may travel 100nm+ mucking around in a day, trying all sorts of things, but 2 setups would be fine.
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Posted By: 1Daz
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 3:12pm
So is spin really the way to go with the ultra light jigs?
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 3:28pm
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Spin I think easier with light jigs and get a better uncontrolled flutter on the drop... A very smooth good quality baitcaster would be nearly as good......
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 3:34pm
I have only used 18-40g jigs, not the ultra light jigs and i find either is good but as redfinger says, spin would possibly be a bit better with ultra ight jigs. Love the Lexa 300HS-P baitcaster with 20-40g jigs
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Posted By: Kevin.S
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 4:38pm
1Daz wrote:
So is spin really the way to go with the ultra light jigs? |
I've been using some small jigs, 7g, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pull line off a baitcaster or overhead reel. The guy in the shop when I bought them said you could only use spin on the really small stuff.
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 7:42pm
30 years ago they were all called jigs regardless of there weight/action/hook placement, interesting what retailers are saying about reels, the drum reels free spool, so depending on there set-up should be the freest turn reel on the market, they prove this by holding most of the world records in distance casting, yet spin reels may have come a long way the lip of the spool is still a hindrance to its ability to let line drop freely, you make up your own mind up about this, but for me it is easier to feel/see a fish hit on the drop with free spool reel than a spin reel, you need to use both for a considerable amount of time to work this out, yes the new craze on jigging is good for the tackle stores but long term i am afraid your going to give it up as its too hard..
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Posted By: muchalls
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 7:52pm
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Have been using Curado 200's but just bought a Ducro 10, hoping free spool will have less resistance for lfsp jigs.....
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 8:19pm
spin reels are the only way to go with jigs 28 grams and less,in 30 + mtrs you need to cast ahead of the drift unless the boats stationary. Try doing that with a 28 gram jig on a baitcaster,it will cast about 5 mtrs if your lucky. my success with the light microjigs has been on light tackle casting and letting them drop unassisted ,being in touch with the jig on the fall isn't important,if your in touch your impeding the action of the jig fluttering naturally.
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 8:22pm
Lethal wrote:
30 years ago they were all called jigs regardless of there weight/action/hook placement, interesting what retailers are saying about reels, the drum reels free spool, so depending on there set-up should be the freest turn reel on the market, they prove this by holding most of the world records in distance casting, yet spin reels may have come a long way the lip of the spool is still a hindrance to its ability to let line drop freely, you make up your own mind up about this, but for me it is easier to feel/see a fish hit on the drop with free spool reel than a spin reel, you need to use both for a considerable amount of time to work this out, yes the new craze on jigging is good for the tackle stores but long term i am afraid your going to give it up as its too hard..
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I agree with what your saying Eric but to me the micro jigs are to be fished like a s/b,cast ahead of the drift not just dropped down under the boat. If your dropping under the boat may as well just use a 80 gram jig and get down there quickly
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Posted By: muchalls
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 8:34pm
"Try doing that with a 28 gram jig on a baitcaster,it will cast about 5 mtrs if your lucky" Guess I must be lucky then, back off the cast control and free spool drag and Curado's aren't half bad. Just got to remember to tighten up when you go heavier or its bird nest time (apparently......)
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Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 8:38pm
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Any particular micro jigs working better than others or go to models?
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 8:45pm
muchalls wrote:
"Try doing that with a 28 gram jig on a baitcaster,it will cast about 5 mtrs if your lucky" Guess I must be lucky then, back off the cast control and free spool drag and Curado's aren't half bad. Just got to remember to tighten up when you go heavier or its bird nest time (apparently......) |
What about a 7 gram micro jig ? The point I was making is casting jigs that can weigh as much as your leader can for most people be way more effective with a spin reel,less chances of a birds nest as well. I'm pretty handy with a baitcaster but I defiantly get more distance with a spin reel in the scenario I've described
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 8:46pm
Fishing Addiction wrote:
Any particular micro jigs working better than others or go to models? |
I'm a fan of the " braid T caster" fav colour pink with lumo and the purple in low light evening conditions is dynamite. And the " braid sailfin" is my fav flutter jig.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2015 at 9:01pm
of2fsh wrote:
spin reels are the only way to go with jigs 28 grams and less,in 30 + mtrs you need to cast ahead of the drift unless the boats stationary. Try doing that with a 28 gram jig on a baitcaster,it will cast about 5 mtrs if your lucky. my success with the light microjigs has been on light tackle casting and letting them drop unassisted ,being in touch with the jig on the fall isn't important,if your in touch your impeding the action of the jig fluttering naturally.
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agree totally Wayne
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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2015 at 7:55pm
of2fsh wrote:
Fishing Addiction wrote:
Any particular micro jigs working better than others or go to models? |
I'm a fan of the " braid T caster" fav colour pink with lumo and the purple in low light evening conditions is dynamite. And the " braid sailfin" is my fav flutter jig.
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can you give me a run down on your setup. I have a 2 to 4kg softbait rod running 4 pound braid. Would it be ok.
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2015 at 10:12pm
Kandrew wrote:
of2fsh wrote:
Fishing Addiction wrote:
Any particular micro jigs working better than others or go to models? |
I'm a fan of the " braid T caster" fav colour pink with lumo and the purple in low light evening conditions is dynamite. And the " braid sailfin" is my fav flutter jig.
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can you give me a run down on your setup. I have a 2 to 4kg softbait rod running 4 pound braid. Would it be ok. |
Perfect set up,use 10 pd leader ,tie jig on with a lefties loop knot ,cast as you would a s/b
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Posted By: Kevin.S
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2015 at 4:52pm
Last weekend we were out fishing and my wife hooked what I thought was a big kahawai or a kingfish, given where we were fishing and how it took off. It managed to spit the hook very quickly, but not before destroying her rig and the first metre or so of her line by rubbing it against something and shredding it. I had been fishing a 7g jig and put my rod in the holder to shorten her line and sort out a new rig for her. I was a little surprised when whatever had taken her line grabbed my jig and went for it, with my rod bent over and line screaming off the reel. Unfortunately I forgot just how light my tackle was and when I picked up the rod I thumbed the edge of the spool to slow the line down, which resulted in an instant bust off But I was quite surprised that what was obviously a pretty big fish would grab a jig that was only about 3cm long, just goes to show you that anything can happen and you don't need big jigs for big fish. Must remember to keep my hands off the reel next time though.
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Posted By: Potty
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2015 at 10:06am
Hi guys, I gave micro jigging a go yesterday. My 5th fish was lost at the side of the yak (swam away with my jig). Initially I thought my lefties loop had broken but the loop was still in one piece. Obviously the loop had unwound through the split ring.
??? is where and how is the correct way to attach these jigs?
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2015 at 10:20am
Potty wrote:
Hi guys, I gave micro jigging a go yesterday. My 5th fish was lost at the side of the yak (swam away with my jig). Initially I thought my lefties loop had broken but the loop was still in one piece. Obviously the loop had unwound through the split ring.
??? is where and how is the correct way to attach these jigs? |
I tie strait to the loop of the jig with a lefties,not onto the split ring. Most of my jigs don't have split rings just a assist hook off the loop of the jig . I'm not a fan of genie clips on small jigs
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2015 at 10:43am
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I use the clips supplied by Brittain Wynyard for slow jigging, micro and trout jigging. Very careful about using any other as had issues with nearly all of the others. Softies I tie to hook with no clip. Might post a photo.
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Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2015 at 4:07pm

See above clips I use .
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Posted By: studio1
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2015 at 8:40pm
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I need a nice lightweight casting setup = what would be looking at here reel size - 1000? 2500? - presume there is a t-cruve or BBE in 2-4kg weigh to match? If i recall Espresso was running a 1000 size Stella, 2 lb braid - matched to?
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2015 at 8:50pm
i never use any clips when using jigs lighter than 30g(in fact dont like clips fullstop), defeats the purpose and just something that the mono or jig can get hooked up on and cause break offs and un natural presentation studio1... 2500 reel and 3-5kg rod are great for micro jigs
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2015 at 9:11pm
 30g micro jig in zebra lumo caught last weekend, 67cm and just over 6kg on 3-5kg rod and 10lb braid. I was using the same rig on saturday in 71m and getting down to the bottom easy, actually outfished the inchikus at that depth
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Posted By: Fishing Addiction
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2015 at 9:54pm
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Solid snap Kevin. That lumo is really working lately. Funny how I was late to jump on the micro jig wave but seem to out fish the usual reliable inchiku at the moment. Amazing wee creatures
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2015 at 5:26am
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Yesterday I finally got to try out the blue blue searider micros while walking and stalking the channels in the inner harbour at low tide softbaiting, I had a 20grm blue/pink and found the KYs just absolutely nail it - was great fun in shallow water. It seemed to have a wide range of actions depending on retrieve speed, whether you cranked it in like a spinner or swam it like a jig horizontally.
Speaking of which I also see in both Japan and Italy they are real big into horizontal shore based jigging and are catching fish
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Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2015 at 12:19pm
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so butterfly free fall jigs arent considered micro jigging? they do all the action on decent and i can imagine in 40m would take a long time to get to the bottom.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2015 at 12:36pm
FizFisho wrote:
so butterfly jigs arent considered micro jigging? they do all the action on decent and i can imagine in 40m would take a long time to get to the bottom. |
Micro jigs are small in size/weight. eg 30g or less is what is micro jigs really are.
Most butterfly jigs would be heavier than this so therefore called slow pitch jigs and yes some jigs take a long time to get to the bottom but they are still "fishing" all the way down I find 90% of strikes on jigs whether, inchiku ,slow pitch, butterfly are are on the fall.
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Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2015 at 12:41pm
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thanks for that. thats why ive been googling butterflies so much :-)
but i can see some of these micro blades being effective in shallower water. like they do in oz for bream but around reefs here for snaps?
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2015 at 3:08pm
NZ seems to have a strange interpretation of micro jigging, the key word is 'micro', otherwise it is simply, 'jigging'. Often 25gm or less is termed a micro-jig, most refer to 20gms or less, although this is open to debate, the point being is that they are small, tiny...i.e. micro. The fun on these little things is insane. They have amped my attitude to fishing once again, and have added another dimension and way of catching fish. I have been specifically working on these teeny jigs for quite some time now, finding out why, what and where they are used to their best effectiveness. To me they are like any good piece of fishing equipment, understand what they are doing and how they attract fish, enhance those attributes and fish go mental...snapper, kingfish, gurnard, dory, kahawai etc all caught on 20gm micro jigs. The main aspect is the flutter, the hang time - which when the shape is modified to increase the length of time the jig takes to flutter and waft to the bottom, the better strike rate generally speaking. Some of the intense line streaking takes of these jigs on the drop has to be seen and felt to be believed (often when the fish aren't feeding but there) - and the size of fish that will nail a tiny 20gm jig. I can hardly wait to get out there fishing again - the next level if you like from soft baiting? Too much fun if you ask me 
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2015 at 4:02pm
FizFisho wrote:
thanks for that. thats why ive been googling butterflies so much :-)
but i can see some of these micro blades being effective in shallower water. like they do in oz for bream but around reefs here for snaps? |
Yes that fish i posted a photo off was caught on a large reef system just out from Whangamata, plenty of big fish around these micro jigs just waft down slowly like a piece of bait just waiting for something to eat them
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Posted By: Men In Black
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2015 at 6:24pm
Espresso wrote:
NZ seems to have a strange interpretation of micro jigging, the key word is 'micro', otherwise it is simply, 'jigging'. Often 25gm or less is termed a micro-jig, most refer to 20gms or less, although this is open to debate, the point being is that they are small, tiny...i.e. micro. The fun on these little things is insane. They have amped my attitude to fishing once again, and have added another dimension and way of catching fish. I have been specifically working on these teeny jigs for quite some time now, finding out why, what and where they are used to their best effectiveness. To me they are like any good piece of fishing equipment, understand what they are doing and how they attract fish, enhance those attributes and fish go mental...snapper, kingfish, gurnard, dory, kahawai etc all caught on 20gm micro jigs. The main aspect is the flutter, the hang time - which when the shape is modified to increase the length of time the jig takes to flutter and waft to the bottom, the better strike rate generally speaking. Some of the intense line streaking takes of these jigs on the drop has to be seen and felt to be believed (often when the fish aren't feeding but there) - and the size of fish that will nail a tiny 20gm jig. I can hardly wait to get out there fishing again - the next level if you like from soft baiting? Too much fun if you ask me 
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would have to agree, anything 25g -70g of a similar shape and action fits the casting flat fall profile.
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Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2015 at 3:18pm
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Hey guys what weight leader trace is everyone using on their microjigs? Is 20 pound too heavy for letting a 20 gm jig free-fall to the bottom. If say fishing over sand in 20 - 30m could i get away with fishing 15 pound leader and 6 pound braid ? I know there is sinking braid on the market but not in a rush to get some. cheers
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Posted By: Kevin.S
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2015 at 3:27pm
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I use 15lb flouro leader with 6lb braid, haven't fished as deep as you but got 12g jigs down 15-20m with no problem.
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Posted By: flyfisher
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2015 at 4:08pm
I used these at the Beach and Boat (Thanks Kevin) absolutely dynamite wee things! The 30grams just kept getting Snapper after Snapper with a few Trev's thrown in and the obligatory Leather Jackets hooked up the rrrssseee! Awesome lures on 10lb braid with 20lb fluoro leaders. I'll be adding some to the arsenal to try on the local Gurnard population down here soon.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2015 at 4:17pm
I was using a 30g model last weekend using 30lb fluro and 10lb braid and had no trouble getting down to 70m(was pretty still though) I would however use lighter braid (4-8lb) and flurocarbon leader (15-20lb) if fishing over sand and using 7-20g jigs
Flyfisher... i have never caught so many leatherjackets since i started using micro jigs
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Posted By: Rotate
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2015 at 4:38pm
flyfisher-the left hand lure is my go to gurnard jig.14gm.underside belly is angled up so lays awesome on sand.got it from warehouse.caught snapper,bluecod,kahawahi,and gurnard so far.its my favourite micro. other 2 are 7gm or there abouts.havnt changed the treble out yet as had ran out of small inlines from my trout lure kit.
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2015 at 4:55pm
Most times I'll use 6-10lb braid with 15lb trace, although for pure fun factor 2lb braid and 10lb leader but I only use this for the sheer thrill factor rather than fishing to keep fish - I fish micro's mostly 45m but have used the 20gm jigs in 60+m. I find it difficult to be in contact with jigs of 7gms, but you still know you're hooked up when the line is peeling off at a great rate of knots, now to get out and have some fun with those skippies..right in along the North Shore bays fyi for those in jaffa land  I do find a single hook off the top of the lure works very well when fishing vertically in deeper water, rather than the trailing hook used in the more casting style or shallower water retrieval style jigs (as in Rotate's picture above).
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Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2015 at 5:38pm
Thanks guys. good share of knowledge there. Are skippies right off the bays say cpl kms off or gotta burn bit more fuel for that? I am a kayaker
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Posted By: Espresso
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2015 at 5:46pm
Ah that'd be interesting, they move distances -but well within reach, about a k... maybe have a good look through bino's for the silvery blips first thing on a calm morning from the shore
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Posted By: DenimViper
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2015 at 11:47am
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Need to invest in one of those GoPro drones for spotting surface activity. Would be fun catching skippies on light microjig setup.
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Posted By: Big Manly Yaka
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2015 at 4:30pm
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A gopro helipad would be an interesting mod to the yak Dmitry!
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Posted By: Kabinda
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2015 at 9:45pm
Started using lighter flat fall jigs (30-40g) a few weeks ago and had great results but what rod and reel set up is considered ideal? Used a bait caster on a Ocean Gravity Slow Pitch Rod but thinking it was a but stiff but found using a 3000 Saros on a Shimano Nano STS SB Rod quite nice to use being that bit more flexible in the tip.
Both caught fish.. plenty of fish actually, snaps (biggest being 10lb), trev's, gurnard & KY's.
Do I need to buy more rods & reels... lol.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 6:46am
Kabina... i was using a 3-5kg Veritas sb rod at first and caught a 6.5kg snap on it 1st day but definately under gunned. Have since bought a Synit matanza LL which is there lightest rod available, rated for 10-30g jigs, 8'6" long so great for the Long Fall technique used with micro jigs. Only downside with the long rod is boating a strong green fish using such a long rod when fishing solo. I just use my Stella 4000 on it, bit slow in the retrieve department but holds plenty of 10lb line which is needed at times
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Posted By: Kabinda
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 11:27am
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I've got a 4-8kg Veritas with a Stradic 4000FJ on it in amongst my gear so guessing will take that out for a crack next time. Actually up your way on the weekend Kevin, not bringing the boat this time, wind looks crap (plus wife told me not to, lol) but will probably end up having a play round with some Lures & SB down the river mouth if the tides are right and hide from the wind.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2015 at 12:47pm
The 4-8kg rod should be sweet mate and 4000 size reel is good i did use a 3012H Certate but got spooled(think it was a kingfish). Didnt have time to drop drogue and chase it ps. i have some 20g micro ridgebacks arriving soon, should be here before end of month. Cant wait as there are some big fish in close at present.
Normally room on my boat if you want to go for a jig sometime usually only 2 of us most trips( 6.1 cc)
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Posted By: Kabinda
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2015 at 4:04pm
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All good I'll be into some 20g's when they come in and thanks for the trip offer, will take you up on that sometime soon, grabbed a couple of 20g & 30g Blue Blue Searides yesterday to throw around this weekend, will be interesting to see how they perform. I've sent you a PM.
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2015 at 7:48am
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I am using a Daiwa Lateo Q 100MH that I imported from Japan as the specs were perfect for what I was wanting to do - shore jigging
10 foot 2 piece rod, K guides, 12-60 grams casting weight, 12-25 pounds braid line weight and with regular action so the whole rod bends under load not just the tip.
I have this matched to a sustain 5000fg with 30 pound 832 (would rather 20lb but the shop had none at the time)
It is virtually the same set up as MJ uses - pure accidental apart from the rod choice.
I fish mainly micros if you can call them that ranging in weight from 20grm to 60grm with a wide selection of brands and colours from CJ's from Kevin, blueblues, colt snipers, maria, braid, etc etc
I gave them a good wash in fresh water and hung them to dry so hopefully will end up with no rust on the hooks or rings
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So far mixed results from shore with plenty of kahawai, a couple of snapper, a few good kingy chases resulting in hook ups with the colt snipers but lost both at my feet due to the hook pulling with a mighty head shake - the rod was nicely bent in half during the fight.
Being land based is a little harder from the point that you have to bring the fish to you using burley, knowing what spots work best at different tide conditions and of course watching out for structure that can cause a bust off.
So far has been real fun and have heaps to learn exploring new spots and trying different techniques with the lures but one so far that has worked for me is a double full lift with the rod and let the lure free fall back to the bottom and repeat so that I am working the lure both horizontally and vertically.
The main thing I like with this set up is I can fish it all day long without tiring and it casts a mile.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2015 at 9:43am
Nice jig selection Gary.....Jig HO a quick spray with Inox on hooks works well
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2015 at 9:55am
Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 16 May 2015 at 6:04pm
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Just tried out the Zetz slow blatt cast wide in 40 grams today and bang on the very first cast hooked into a KY and then landed 2 more in quick succession - they love them.
http://www.palms.co.jp/lure/zetz/en/slow-blatt-cast/" rel="nofollow - http://www.palms.co.jp/lure/zetz/en/slow-blatt-cast/
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 16 May 2015 at 9:54pm
KW love any lure Gary they do look good though
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Posted By: muchalls
Date Posted: 30 May 2015 at 8:28pm
Ok, late update and all, but I just bought a new Curado 201, stuck in some Boca orange seal ceramic bearings. Darn thing spins for nearly a minute (taking into account the time to spin it up to speed, then grab iPad and start recording) with cast control and brakes backed off! Reckon that level of low friction should come close to an eggbeater on the drop. Perpetual motion!
https://www.facebook.com/charlie.dundas/videos/10206286018045488/
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 30 May 2015 at 8:38pm
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Wow that thing spins nicely - better have your cast control set right or its going to be one hell of a seagulls nest
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 30 May 2015 at 8:38pm
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Thats cool but I would be very worried about over runs when a fish hits. Still think spin is better for microjigs and O/H for anything 30 gram plus.
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Posted By: muchalls
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 10:59am
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Yeah I know, I wouldn't cast that without adding some braking and tightening the cast control as otherwise casting would cause a hell of a tangle. Still, it's somewhat mesmerising.
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Posted By: muchalls
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 11:02am
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And I do agree, stress free casting means a spinning reel for ultra light jigs.
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Posted By: 1Daz
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 3:21pm
Well I'm going to buy a dedicated micro jigging rod rod this week and I'm thinking the ultra light Storm micro jigger mainly because I cant find sweet FA else online. Any one else been using one of these?
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Posted By: makka
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 3:40pm
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They are a great rod, especially for the price, just make sure you can tie a FG or PR knot for your leader as they run micro guides
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Posted By: 1Daz
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 4:01pm
Yea fg all the way. I can tie PR knots fine with my kingy gear but increadibly frustrating with light braid imo
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Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 4:10pm
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topcatch have some nice shimano colt sniper rods on special
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Posted By: 1Daz
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 4:58pm
What are those worth roughly Rockz? Aint seen those
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Posted By: rockz
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 5:45pm
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they had a combo with a 2500 reel for 139, and spooled for 169 their JDM range was also very nice...
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Posted By: KWHO
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2015 at 4:05pm
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Hi Everyone,
Like to share a little, we often use 7-20gms jigs (sometimes maybe down to 5gms) in coastal waters of up to 60m in Singapore & Malaysia. And we did the same thing with success during our trips to New Zealand, Maldives and Sri Lanka too.
We use spinning reels like Shimano size 1000 with 3 to 5lbs of braided line. Japanese lines are also available in PE rating between PE0.3 to 0.6 (these are really thin). Most of the time, you should be able to get about a 150m of line spooled. Leaders used could range from 8-15lbs solely depending on your defined level of thrill.
For rods, you might find it strange in this part of the world, while some of us favour specific micro jigging rods, another school uses the fastest action BASS rods we could get our hands on. Rating of rods could be from 1-6lbs between 6' to 6'6". Reason being jigs with the slightest movement of our wrist to achieve a good rebound or dance of the jigs with the sensitive and ex fast action especially when we get to jigs weighing 5-7gms. With consideration of butt length not being too long to impede the flicking motion.
We would normally release the line and let it go out unimpeded till we see a pause in the release of the line from the spool (it was really hard for me to get that when I first started and whenever it gets a lil too windy. When we work the jigs here, we try to achieve more of a reaction bite than hoping for feeding take during the trying moments we have while fishing. Apart from the movement of the jig, I think what makes it tick more to the fish would be adding glitter feathers that we see in sabikis to attract more attention. Do anyone do a pause when the jig is at the bottom during a drift and do a sudden flick to get a reaction bite?
And it's really true that it is magical fun when feeding time has stopped as I find micro jigging best at times when you get to see the sounder showing presence fish but they aren't on feeding mode. It works very well in fishing ponds and even freshwater too.
Here are some microjigging photos to share and a link to a nice blog
http://tacklesource.blogspot.sg/
Go small to have max fun fishing!
HO
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Posted By: 3rnzir
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2015 at 8:53pm
Nice work Ho. Thanx for the advice. Sure looks like great fun you guys are having near the equator.

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Posted By: KWHO
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2015 at 4:33pm
My pleasure. There's alot of fishing pressure here. So downsizing brings out the most fun especially when the going is always tough.
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