Great white visits the Upper Harbour
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Topic: Great white visits the Upper Harbour
Posted By: the demon
Subject: Great white visits the Upper Harbour
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 6:05pm
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Just reading (herald)a Greatwhite was hooked up by a 6 meter tinny fishing up the Waitamata harbour near Te Atatu ,Did a jump and swam off .Breeding may be . Not every day you encounter this top of the chain feeder ,would of been cool to see.
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 6:12pm
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Boaties and holiday-makers are being urged to take care after a 4.5-metre great white shark was hooked by a group out fishing in Auckland's Waitemata Harbour. Department of Conservation (DoC) shark expert Clinton Duffy said a family were fishing for snapper in a six-metre boat when they hooked the shark near Te Atatu. The large shark jumped out of the water twice before breaking free from the fishing line and disappearing, he said. Duffy said DoC was urging people to take care in the water in the area as the shark could still be patrolling and could be dangerous. "A bite from any sort of shark over 1.8m long can be pretty serious." The great white was likely to weigh close to a tonne and could do significant damage if it bit someone, he added. While it was not uncommon for sharks to be in the harbour, the sighting of a great white of this size was rare, he said. It was likely that the shark was attracted into the harbour by the large amounts of snapper in the area at the moment, Duffy said, adding that the struggling fish being caught by the group on Monday would have drawn the shark to the boat. The shark might have moved on since the encounter earlier this week but it could still be in the area. Great white sharks could reach speeds of at least 45 kilometres an hour so it could be long gone.
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However, they had been known to stay in the Kaipara Harbour for weeks, Duffy said. The great white would likely stay around as long as there was food in the area, he said. The shark had not been sighted since Monday, when it was patrolling in the 2.5m-deep water. However, the water was murky at the moment and visibility was poor. If the shark was still around it would be patrolling the main channels and sticking to the deeper waters but it would come into shallow water near the shore if it thought there was something to eat, he said. Large great white sharks were usually solitary. DoC advised people not to swim in the area and those who were fishing, kayaking, or kite surfing in that area of the Waitemata should keep an eye out for the great white and keep themselves safe. People should avoid doing things to attract the shark like dumping dead fish and old bait in the water. Anyone fishing from a boat in the area should not attach a burley bag to their anchor chain. Despite DoC's cautions, the Coastguard had not issued an official warning. Coastguard said it had heard the fish tale but were more amused than concerned. "How did they know it was a great white?" a spokeswoman said. As to whether boaties were concerned, she said no. "The harbour is full of sharks." ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 6:17pm
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near Te Atatu, interesting, (Bronzie) maybe, just saying.... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: brmbrm
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 6:23pm
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Yes: would be worth checking the shark ID skills of those anglers. Plenty of bronzies around there. Must have been a bit of a rush though!
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Posted By: Otto
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 6:24pm
Spent two days water skiing up there and all the kids came back, might need to try again. 
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Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 6:36pm
| A harbour GW is probably in to give birth to pups not really feeding as such. Could be a large bronzie also. |
Posted By: the demon
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 6:40pm
Yeah hear you Lethal, I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now.Should turn up again if its for real. Sounds bloody big for a bronzy .. Always look back of my young days when it was blowing hard at Houhora on the one base and would steer up at the wall at the local at that photo of a great white that died in the harbour and the pups that were cut out of her (90 odd kegs apiece )can't remember how many ,been a while .
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Lethal wrote:Posted By: Cigar
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 6:50pm
Troll the kids a bit slower!  Every large shark is a great white (and over 4m long), just like every dog that bites someone is a pitbull. |
Posted By: gmacx
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 10:06pm
| I thought gw's fight from deep down, surely not deep enough to j ump? |
Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 10:10pm
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they will go in very shallow. some cool you tube vids around when they were testing out the sub cams |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2014 at 10:40pm
| Was a spotty dogfish thast was attached to a burley bomb which was attached to a long peice of kelp which was wrapped round a missing channel marker and all that measured exactly 4.5 meter when briefly seen jumping from a distance. |
Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 8:55am
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Well as my very local area I would be most interested to know the truth. But we are talking about fisherman here the only time when men spin yarns. I have caught a number of sharks here they range from little doggies and pups, hammerhead and bronzes. Bronzes here are quite prolific and there is one common thing with 90% of the bronzes I have caught and particularaly in the shallows the always jump. The id of that shark would be good. It is really a different kettle of fish if it's a white just a different attitude and generally far more inquisitive. It's that bold inquisitive nature which will keep me out of the kayak. Not that I have ever been in a kayak. Definetly put a different meaning on the water toys day we have up here. ------------- Still cruising in my now sweetas pimped out Southern 755 HT0! |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 9:02am
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Remember a few years ago, just out of Tauranga, a GW launched out of the water fully air borne with an adult bronzie in it's mouth |
Posted By: kingfishers
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 9:03am
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An updated version as seen on New Zealand Herald.
"The shark - estimated at 4.5 metres - was hooked by a family fishing from a 6m boat near Te Atatu on Monday, Department of Conservation marine scientist Clinton Duffy said.
The family's description of the shark's size, colour and behaviour convinced Mr Duffy it was probably a white pointer. Red Boats charter skipper Andrew Somers believes he may have witnessed the incident on a return trip from the Riverhead historic tavern on Monday afternoon. "It jumped high out of the water three or fourtimes before obviously snapping the fisherman's line," Mr Somers said. "It was hard to tell from a distance but it definitely would have been something like a great white or a mako, just by the way it tail-walked. Generally, schooling sharks don't do the big jumps and dives like that."
Another charter skipper, Ray Phillips of NZ Fishing Safaris, said he doubted the shark was a great white. "I'd put my money on a bronze whaler, but who knows?" he said" ------------- "My mind has gone fishing, ask all questions tomorrow" |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 9:20am
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Might be possible for a gw to visit as there have been orcas at certain times of the year off the naval base.porpoises also but in my observations when you get porpoises sign off a bad easterly. ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 9:30am
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NZ coastline doesn't really have porpoises, few rare strays. Most likely 'Common Dolphin' you are thinking of. |
Posted By: Redfinger
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 9:40am
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A guy came into the shop yesterday or day before - they were pretty sure it was a White due to the colour and size. Distinct Dark grey/ bluish tinge to top and very white belly. Plus he was sure it was in excess of 4m. Don't really know what all fuss is about - I would doubt very much if it was the only white in the harbour at the moment.
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Posted By: Bounty Hunter
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 10:09am
thanks for adding a dose of reality RF ------------- No disintegrations! |
Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 10:09am
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Some interesting points there, Size is the important one here. 4m or longer is a big fish, if it really was that size, that for me discounts the bronzies. I have neither seen or caught anything probably over 3m here. In relation to size my observation is that the girth of a GW is much greater than the bronze. Another influence over describing what someone may have seen as a very big fish. The jumping would seem to be a common occurrence amongst a number of sharks and with the shallow nature of the harbour this would be another fight/flight factor as to why the airborne. As per would it come up here, no reason why it wouldn't many large species do in all our harbours. The upper Waitemata harbour is regularly visited by Orcas, Dolphins and Seals these ones are obvious visitors. My thoughts anyway. If there is a GW here in the harbour which is quite reasonable. My guess it is a female who was in the area and probably quite pregnant looking for that birthing zone. ------------- Still cruising in my now sweetas pimped out Southern 755 HT0! |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 10:21am
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They do exist there but probably not common. December 15 2000 a 2.6 M , 225 kg Great white was caught 300 m off Takapuna beach in a snapper net. N.Z herald article still to found on the internet. Shark experts verified this as a young G.W 5-6 years old |
Posted By: catch1t
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 11:52am
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they are easy enough to tell apart from other sharks mainly by their tail... got quite a few lurking around the Kaipara where they seem to like doing the breeding thing..
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2015 at 12:16pm
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so the facts are: yes could be right they have been known/caught before a few times, colour we dont know how well educated on fish life the crew of the this boat are, hence shape colour size could of been report incorrectly or correctly depending on how far away from the boat it jumped, other sharks that are likely to jump when hooked Gt White/Bronzie/Thrasher, large Mako in that close i dont think so small ones yes maybe... after weighing up the facts and other observations/reports we might have a Gt White hooked and lost, or a Bronzie which was over exaggerated in size as they only saw the underbelly of the shark and not the dark side hence suggested its colouration not what was sighted, plus only the top half of the shark was sighted and no distinct markings or true shape could be taken into account, the rest is hear say and after talking to experts they ended up convinced it was the most vicious shark in the ocean so the story would published and make headlines all around the world... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 5:18am
------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: Godders
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2015 at 5:49pm
| What sort of gear were they using?wouldnt a great white with a no.6 hook in its mouth just keep going without noticing it until you ran out of line or the line snapped? |
Posted By: Parmajaana
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 10:11am
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Ok so I guess I better put the record straight. The shark in question was hooked on my boat by my brother initially but he then passed the rod to me. It was his first time fishing so I had my bait runner spooled up with 24kg IGFA mono. I thought I'd give him heavy gear so he could skull drag anything in if needed. Boy was I wrong. We hooked the shark in 2.5 meters of water and it just took off. It only breached twice and when it did it was turning it's body away from us so we got a clear view of its side and underbelly which was get side and white white belly. First jump was about 30 meters away the second was about 100. It didn't jump and flip like the makos do, just came up and turned, wagging its tail. I'm pretty sure it landed on the line after the second jump which cut it. It was like watching a car jump out of the water! We all agreed that it was between 3.5-4 meters and that it was a mako at the time. It was up there with best marine experience I've ever had...... a massive shark hooked and jumping in 2.5 meters of water!!!!! We packed it in after that, amped up after the experience. It wasn't until later that day when I was talking to mate that he said I should probably call it in. So I called DOC and spoke to Clinton Duffy the shark specialist who said that given the size and jumping style it sounded way more like a GW. He told me that Whites were commonly seen and recorded in the Waitemata harbour only 30 years ago, and that the biggest ever recorded Mako in NZ is just over 4 meters. So there is a very high possibility it was a small GW. I've seen Orca up there twice so maybe it hunts up there? Then came the onslaught of phone calls from the DOC marine specialist gagging to talk to me about it. They were salivating like rabbit dogs. Then came the media. 28 missed calls on NY eve while I was at the beach in the afternoon!!!!! I couldn't be assed talking to them on NY so I just ignored the calls. They reported it anyway and as you can see it was sensationalised somewhat. There are however other people that have reported seeing it and say it was a GW as well so who knows. Either way cool story to tell my kids anyway and an amazing expirence!!! I wouldn't put my name it saying it was a Gw but I can't say it wasn't, I've never caught one in the past!! I think my brother is good luck though!!! Yes the snaps are in the harbour, but so is a big shark:)
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Posted By: Parmajaana
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 10:14am
| Shimano 6500B bait runner spooled fresh with 24kg IGFA mono on a 10-15kg aqua tip, 60LB Fluro carbon tough trace with 2 VMC recurve hooks attached to a pill |
Posted By: Parmajaana
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 10:16am
| Pilly |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 1:01pm
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interesting Parmajaana, and thanks for telling your side of the story, my conclusion, take it or leave it how you like... possible just picked up your line while cruising the shallows getting ready to drop its pups, it would be a she to be that big, but not very likely ate your pillie but who knows, foul hooked on a pectoral fin could also be the reason for it turning on its side each time it broached, unbelievable the news people when a shark is involved, they cant get enough.... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: M.I.L.F
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 1:08pm
would be good fun to catch that  ------------- KING SMURFIX |
Posted By: brmbrm
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 1:27pm
| Thanks Parmajaana - sounds like a fantastic experience. |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2015 at 9:03pm
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Thanks for posting that Parmajaana. That's an experience of a lifetime. I have seen a GW up close and personal and I'll never forget it. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 12:42pm
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The news says more and more sightings of great whites in harbour. This could be it. Remember Hitchcocks --The Birds. This could be similar "The Sharks. " --the revenge. |
Posted By: Fishabunga
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 1:15pm
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"your going to need a bigger boat" ------------- FISH FIGHT AOTEAROA THE PEOPLES PROTEST |
Posted By: A LOAF OF BREAD
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 9:43pm
So a big great white eats a pilly and gets hooked up on a 6500B baitrunner with 60lb fluro carb mono and breaches twice? |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 9:56pm
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ALOB, why do you disbelieve that? I've seen many makos do the same on light tackle - even when hooked on softbait gear they will jump. Maybe you know more than us? Please share if you do. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: A LOAF OF BREAD
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 10:13pm
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There is no way i know more than you guys. Im just an amatuer. I never said i did not believe it. Its impressive if it is true. |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2015 at 10:44pm
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I once saw a very big shark in the harbour which i have never been able to identify. Had a good view of it from above. Talked to shark people as well but they were not sure. Was 1st of October ,so water still quite cold. Was standing on a wharf and saw what at first appeared to be a beer bottle bobbing up and down in the water from a distance. As it came closer i realised it was a shark fin. Came right in and had a good view as it swam right below where i was standing and swam out of sight under the wharf. Dorsal was very large and sort of floppy,moving from side to side. Petrol fins were huge,fully spread out as it swam below me, they resembled very large sting ray wings. Estimate it was about a meter across the top of the back of the head,maybe 4-5 meters long,maybe more. Distinguishing features were a raggy off white fringe (like a dirty mop colour) along the rear of both dorsal and petrol fins. Was a dark brown-grey above. Any idea what species this was.? |
Posted By: leadchucker
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 7:23am
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[QUOTE=Fishabunga] "your going to need a bigger boat" Ha Ha |
Posted By: Godders
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 9:27am
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Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 11:42am
Indeed yes thats skull dragging for sure
 , the Piemaster and Katkilla used to routinely target those little fellas (pre being protected) on 2lb Microfuse and 10Lb Fluro  .Aside from that Legendary tale, that would have been an amazing thing to not only see but exterience
 .I recall hearing of them breaching in California and in South Americia but that was hunting prey , although makes sense to do that to throw a hook or the like .
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 12:59pm
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better to wise now and sorry later... The Department of Conservation is monitoring ongoing reports of a great white shark the size of a car in Auckland's busy Waitemata Harbour. On December 29, a family out fishing in the harbour hooked a 4m to 4.5m great white shark and a shark of a similar size was seen on Friday on the opposite side of the same channel, DOC marine scientist Clinton Duffy told NZ Newswire today. At the first sighting, "three people in the boat said it was 4m and one said it was 4.5m". He has not got a detailed description of the sighting on Friday, but the people who saw the shark said it looked like someone had thrown a car into the water. "It's possible it's the same shark but I haven't got an actual description of the shark on Friday," he said. It is routine for great white sharks to be seen in west coast harbours like Manukau and Kaipara, but Waitemata on the eastern side of the North Island is more developed and less pristine. DOC is warning people not to swim in deep channels and says people on small boats should not tie stores of bait to anchor lines as sharks have become tangled in lines and dragged small boats along in Manukau Harbour. "It could easily .. capsize a small boat," Mr Duffy said. New Zealand is a global hotspot for great white sharks, but there hasn't been a sighting of a large great white shark in Waitemata Harbour since January 2010, Mr Duffy said. On Wednesday, DOC issued a statement warning people using Waitemata Harbour to keep an eye out for the shark. Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/waitemata-shark-sightings-continue-2015010413#ixzz3NtsX3n2u" rel="nofollow - http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/waitemata-shark-sightings-continue-2015010413#ixzz3NtsX3n2u ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: A LOAF OF BREAD
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 2:39pm
All that because someone claimed something with no evidence?. Not saying its not true but Paramajama dude said on here what they seen. "so we got a clear view of its side and underbelly which was get side and white white belly" Many sharks have a white belly. "First jump was about 30 meters away the second was about 100". 30-100 meters is quite a distance to get a accurate ID. He said it was 3.5-4 meters and the article says 4-4.5 meters. The storys twisted already |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 3:05pm
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news report yesterday said it has been sighted more than once. Sounds pretty credible to me. |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 3:34pm
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it is getting outa hand now, http://www.nzherald.co.nz/great20white20shark20leaps20out20of20water20as20family20fishes/search/results.cfm?kw1=Great%20white%20shark%20leaps%20out%20of%20water%20as%20family%20fishes&kw2=&st=gsa" rel="nofollow - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/great20white20shark20leaps20out20of20water20as20family20fishes/search/results.cfm?kw1=Great%20white%20shark%20leaps%20out%20of%20water%20as%20family%20fishes&kw2=&st=gsa we have this shark breaching inside the harbour which the more i think about it is a Bronzie, Gt Whites dont jump for nothing but have seen Bronzies doing it, and right now you could catch any amount of them in the harbour, some as big as 2 1/2 meters long... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 3:47pm
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 3:53pm
I've been up there Burlying hard,I'll catch it ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: Butthead
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 4:10pm
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Was out on Monday last week and saw a massive splash at around 10.30am by the last red marker around Kauri PT/Kendall's Bay, didnt see the culprit, just the big splash... Would of though a bronzie as there's heaps around at the moment up there.. Probably chasing the sting rays around in the shallows as there's heaps of them as well? Be interested to hear where exactly Parmajamma hooked it up? Was it closer to Te At Pen or out at Kauri? ------------- Formerly Piaow Piaow, |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 4:17pm
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Posted By: of2fsh
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 4:36pm
I'll run the light hook twin rig on wire as well...oh wait there's none available ------------- 2009 and 2010 BERKLEY SOFTBAIT COMP CHAMPS,Runner up 2013 ( solo),winner 2013/14 longest kingfish nz fishing competition |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 4:38pm
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shortly someones dog will get eaten while out swimming and that will be blamed on the Gt White as well, the media love this sort of thing and will milk it no end... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 4:40pm
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Wire Smirer whip some up out of a bit of flax mate, thats how we roll now and will off set your carbon footprint to.
Dont forget the Luckystrikes for the riggers as well.
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Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 5:08pm
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Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 5:25pm
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Wont be long before media morphs this into the first magalodon sighting in 20 million years and we will have a new tourist industry ---megalodon watching |
Posted By: Godders
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 6:25pm
| I must confess I was on holiday up in the mountains in my log cabin when I first heard the choppers arriving it was Th S.F.S the special fishing service.They wanted my help one last time I said I will will catch that fish Tuesday but there will be alot of screaming;crys for help and yelling and thats just me getting up in the morning. |
Posted By: catch1t
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 6:39pm
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I wonder how many steel traces and big hooks are at the ready,,,, there's a name to be made. not sure what that name will be though...
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Posted By: Godders
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 7:01pm
| Kabura? Maybe 1000gm pink with tassles and beige feathers.or maybe swim round the boat like a virgin offering works everytime except at the pub. |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 7:09pm
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Kubura wont cut the mustard Godders. Lots of burley and use the boat as bait. |
Posted By: Godders
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 7:27pm
| I might use a helicopter and when I see a great white Ill jump in and see what happens.dressed like a seal. |
Posted By: Godders
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 7:57pm
| I personall dont like kaburas.I think the Jaoanese use them because oif their lack of resouces they cant use bait. |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 8:01pm
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The time has come to put away my shark suit,some bugger might shoot ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: mmmm...
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2015 at 8:23pm
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BRONZIE!!!!!!. id put money on it. a big white would even noticed he was hooked. would just spool you like the worlds biggest sting ray. i hooked a big bronzie last year on 50ld braid and bait runner it took off then broached and busted me off. ------------- buying usless exspensive fishing gear is my second favourite hobby. |
Posted By: Moocha
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2015 at 10:30am
In breaking news Shark scare over shore boys come clean after attempting to prank the Westie crew and claim Meola reef in a turf war gone bad.
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Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2015 at 1:30pm
 Wont be long till it turns up in a pool out east ------------- A man’s comfort in life can be measured by the quality of the toilet paper he uses to wipe his arse. |
Posted By: Mr Moritz
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2015 at 2:57pm
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Hmm, my brother was fishing near harbour bridge in seventies. When he hooked a large shark. He was in 15ft fibreglass and when it stood on its tail and danced across water his wife went into cabin and screamed to be taken home at once. Old fella close by in 12ft rowboat yelled F...this and lent on his oars and with strokes that would shame an olympic rower disappeared at incredible speed. I think he had it on for about 20 minutes before it busted off. We thought it must have been a mako which are dark on top and white below. Lot finer head then GW which has blunter head and will bite trace off rather than take line. I think. (Well that is what one did to me.) |
Posted By: samax
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2015 at 5:36pm
 . Great white spotted in westhaven on tagit today
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Posted By: gollyfish
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2015 at 10:33pm
this has been hanging out at kaikora for 2 or 3months now..picture taken on friday est 6-7m long
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Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 8:07am
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Why is this so hard to believe? its far from un heard of for these fish to be around the auckland area. there was one a couple of years ago that I cant find the video of anymore taken from a heli in 2m o water 100m from the shore and she was a big fish. disappeared :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edmn6_Ptnpc http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/great-white-jaws-article_topic2843.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myFIQZcRl4E |
Posted By: gollyfish
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 11:55am
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its not, currently there are est 80 adult gw's based @ stewart island...these sharks travel long distances they almost certainly visit food hotspots all the way up both coasts. |
Posted By: gollyfish
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 11:58am
| the real danger comes when the tourist industry train these fish to associate boats with food. then its not a case of if but when. |
Posted By: MacSkipper
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 1:07pm
Have seen sharks swimming around boat on occasion and following fish to boat and last week for the first time for me a bite out of fish being landed (I assume from a shark) so I think they already know about boats - smart predators - picture below happened last week - luckily Snapper left intact! ------------- Good fishing trip nothing breaks, great trip catch fish. |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 5:15pm
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Bronzies Mako's Tope and the odd Blue shark will attack your fish while winding them in, but normally you will see them follow what is left, this is when you need to take a good look at the shark, dark Blue on back, white underneath with a pointed nose is more likely to be a Mako, and are more likely to jump, larger Mako's prefer cleaner water than there younger ones, brown back white underneath reasonable wide nose likely to be a bronzie but also might be a Tope, Tope have what looks like a see through nose, Blue sharks are slow dont like to use energy unless they have to even if you grab their tail when passing the boat, be very careful doing this as they can bite their own tails no problem because they are long and skinny and of coarse are bright blue on the back white underneath.. knowing your sharks is good for your health and everyone elses when reporting them.... Edit: if you kill a Mako be very careful for many hours later not to touch its teeth, even if the head has been cut off the body, 6/8hrs later the mouth is still like a rat trap, it will still snap shut when touched.... Bronzie  Mako  Blue Shark  now look at them from above or front on they look different, Bronzie  Mako  ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 5:22pm
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sea shepard calling for a halt on shark killing in the EU http://petitions.seashepherd.fr/Petitions/Sign/1?lang=en" rel="nofollow - http://petitions.seashepherd.fr/Petitions/Sign/
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Posted By: Mr Moritz
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 5:38pm
| Alf Dean caught GW 1,200 kgs 1.5 miles out from Ceduna South Australia on 130 lb line. In 1954 he hooked 2,000 kg GW for 5 hours before losing it. It pulled his 36ft boat for 12 miles during fight. Evidently they find prey by detecting the preys electrical field which is thought why they sometimes attack boats (stern) drawn by the electrical field. |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 5:51pm
6-7 meters. Thats not a great white. Thats a Megalodon.  One on my earliest memories ,was about 5 or so. Fishing for blue cod not too far from the whaling station at tory channel.Leaky clinker dinghy, blue cod and fish blood getting in the water.. Remember this huge fin following us and my father rowing faster and faster and the shark staying the same distance behind the boat regardless of how fast he rowed. And on that same holiday in that bach , between the heat and the bracken and blow flies a big floating bait being harrased by couta my father trying trying to get it away from them. Then a huge snapper turned up,went straight in shaking his head. Couta took off. It weighed in at 20 something pound. Still a photo of that fish somewhere. |
Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:12pm
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All sorted, I spent the week burleying the harbour up, it had to arrive sooner or later. It did and I jumped of the balcony and wrestled it till it gave its last. Using it for burley and the skin for sandpaper. ------------- Still cruising in my now sweetas pimped out Southern 755 HT0! |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:16pm
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I remember years ago i was fishing at spirits bay off the bricks......it was heading towards dusk......I saw this huge shadow heading towards me and i chucked out a big bonito head........as the line was sinking i saw this shape swim under it and the slack came out of the line.........I struck and came up tight but what ever it was ...was laughing at me......this was with a 6500 baitrunner and 80 pound trace......it just kept on swimming slowly and the line became tighter and snapped...........the fish didnt even react to what happened........line broke like cotton.......whatever it was.. it was bloody big. ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: cirrus
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:31pm
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If anyone wants to catch it its simple. Just paint a mural of a basking seal on the bottom of your boat. Add shark hooks and hang on tight. |
Posted By: pjc
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 6:59pm
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Pity it's not a maui dolphin.doc would have all comms tied up at the basin total fishing ban ------------- Sex at 58.Lucky I live at 56 |
Posted By: catch1t
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 8:21pm
probably Brutus, famous local identity...
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Posted By: A LOAF OF BREAD
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 8:22pm
That would doing it, fishing a baitrunner at spirits bay. lol. I done the same thing about a month ago. I use my baitrunner to catch KY for the bigger TLD rod for kings, but i decided to be dumb and throw half a KY on the baitrunner when i seen a big shape. I think a shark took it cause i got totally spooled.
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Posted By: lemmy
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2015 at 9:25pm
Had a laugh at this one pretty much the same thing happened to me yesterday a decent one(Bronzie 2-3mtrs) just broached not hooked or nothing about 4metres from a poor old fella in a 14ft open parkercraft who was parked next to me at the Green marker on the Kaipara. Must admit I pulled the Old Wobbly pot in for a bit after that. |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2015 at 3:16am
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here is some interesting facts from the guys which have not long finished tagging three Gt Whites in the Kaipara, one of the smaller one screamed across the surface smashing the bait. 4 others breached by exiting the water at a low angle landing on their side. throws up a lot of water.. gives the guys fishing around us a bit of a fright... introducing "Caitlin", "Thomas" & "Sue". all sporting the latest in bling accessories.    here are the latest positions of the 2 SPOT tagged Gt White sharks we released this week. both are outside the entrance of the Kaipara harbour enjoying the calm weather. The young female we have named 'Caitlin', is heading for the Hokianga while 'Thomas the young male is playing around the 300m depth mark outside the bar....no he did not check out the north head lakes amongst the pine trees, that is a hick up in the tracking with 2 pings at the same time....  ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Reel Deal
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2015 at 8:07am
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300m deep not far from the harbour mouth!! Whoa I didn't realise that area had so much potential. Give us a heads up if they head down Rags way but no doubt there are already whites present in the area. Always something in the back of my mind when chest deep dragging the flounder net  ------------- The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of men's lives the hours spent on fishing - Assyrian Proverb |
Posted By: Jemry
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2015 at 8:23am
| a few years ago around this time of year we caught a 153kg Bronzy in 2 mtrs just off mosquito bay |
Posted By: petethemeat
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2015 at 8:37am
I'm a bit concerned about the time it spent on the beach and in the forest! Perhaps commercial fishing has depleted the stocks so much Great Whites are evolving into amphibians! ------------- 
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2015 at 11:17am
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hahaha yeah they said they received 2 pings at the same time hence the sightly out of positions tracking hopefully it will sort itself out. Scott Tindale is the man who is in charge of the Tagging program... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: smudge
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2015 at 12:44pm
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Our club was sent tracking plots from a GW tagged by Clinton Duffy during one of our fishng comps. It pretty much left the harbour right away and carried up the coast and disappeared somewhere between North Cape and Tonga. Smae deal, it came ashore for sunbathing, but spent most of its journey very close to shore. ------------- Best gurnard fisherman in my street |
Posted By: Mr Moritz
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2015 at 4:26pm
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Looks like they are right where the snapper are |
Posted By: the demon
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 9:12pm
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You got any up dates on the 3great white sharks Lethal?Interested to know where they are . Wouldn't say far with the amount of bate we saw last weekend
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 1:16am
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https://www.facebook.com/scott.tindale.31" rel="nofollow - Scott Tindale
Latest tracking of two of our great white sharks tagged inside the
Kaipara harbour. Thomas is now off the Manukau harbour checking out the
continental shelf. Caitlin has decided to head back towards the Kaipara. Sue, the fat 3.5m female, we wont hear from for nine months.........?......that's when the pop off tag is programmed for release. Thomas  Caitlin  Caitlin went looking for the lake, funny how they get a signal like that, guess they cant be that accurate... main thing is it appears to be back on track now... ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: the demon
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 7:36am
| Very cool stuff, be interesting to see what the team do for winter .Stewart Island maybe |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 1:35pm
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they have tagged a few Hammers as well, they are around the Hen and Chicks area looking for a larger specimen of around 100 to 200kgs, anyone sighting one this size lately????
------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 2:52pm
Caitlin way up north now ------------- A man’s comfort in life can be measured by the quality of the toilet paper he uses to wipe his arse. |
Posted By: herby
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 4:52pm
Yes, between mokes and little barrier |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 7:44pm
| Sorry not White Pointer (northland nic name) related...but with hammerheads seen frequently this time of the year off shore...old school always touted they follow marlin packs...so it was sort of considered a good feeling, good omen, and lift in spirits if a big Hammer was spotted whilst out hunting for billfish and tunas....just sayin' |
Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2015 at 4:42pm
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Eleven great white sharks have been spotted at a single site in the
Kaipara Harbour - the largest concentration of the species yet seen in
the upper North Island. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11394461" rel="nofollow - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11394461  Sightings of great whites up to 3.5m at Kaipara Harbour prompt more questions than answers for scientists  The mass sighting was important because little is understood about the distribution and population of great whites in New Zealand, which is considered a "global hot spot" for the protected species. Information gathered from previous captures and sightings suggested the upper North Island was an important breeding area for the species, and potentially also a nursery area for juveniles, Mr Duffy said. "The missing piece of the puzzle is where are the juveniles coming from - the sharks appear to be breeding in New Zealand, so do we have our own breeding population, and if so, are there identifiable nursery areas?" The link between great whites and harbours, such as the vast Kaipara, also remained a mystery. "We know they are quite regularly seen in harbours, but we don't know how much time individual sharks spend in them." Many boaties had sent Mr Duffy images of what they wrongly assumed were makos in harbours. ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: Ohsoslow
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2015 at 5:28pm
| Well that's me sorted for tomorrow.. Time to test out the 130wide! |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2015 at 3:41pm
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I know they breed at stockton in newc NSW. A lot of small (and big) white pointers there. I always thought we just had cruisers coming through auckland, didnt realise there were resident white pointers. End of the day we got plenty of big Makos and Bronzies are always biting out of curiosity, so doesnt really change much for me free diving. But really interesting to see the outcomes of the studies.
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Posted By: Lethal
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2015 at 4:53pm
Warning: They could be closer than you thinkSummer is the season for Jandals and chilly bins and it's also when a host of shark species make an appearance. As New Zealand coastal waters warm and people hit the beaches or go diving or boating, shark spotting becomes somewhat commonplace. more here, http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11384301" rel="nofollow - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11384301 ------------- Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2015 at 5:20pm
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such a beautiful animal. i dont think there is anything to fear but fear, thats what really scares people, imagination. if you really did luck out, well of course you would be scared, but the chances are pretty remote and its our fear of being in their habitat that gives them such a bad name. im more scared of jetskis and some boats when im in the water.
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