New to stickies and poppers
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Popper and Topwater Fishing
Forum Description: If you're into a bit of action on top, this is the forum for you
URL: https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105799
Printed Date: 06 Jun 2026 at 2:20am
Topic: New to stickies and poppers
Posted By: kaimaikid
Subject: New to stickies and poppers
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2014 at 8:52pm
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Hi Was wondering what folk would recommend for kingy/kahawai stickbaits that would stay submerged at I guess about 1 - 2 meters deep on the retrieve? Around the 130mm size pref. The poppers and stickies I have currently tend to spend more time splashing around on the surface as to doing there job under water. Cheers
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Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2014 at 9:41pm
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So you mean a sub surface stickbait or a floating one that actually has decent action? There are plenty of subsurface baits around..I have only used them for GT's. How experienced are you with working them?, with all due respect perhaps you require more practice if your new to it? There is quite a lot to working baits properly and a lot of people don't really have a handle on it. Cheap baits despite some opinions on here do not always lend themselves to fooling kingfish also..you are paying for R&D for a product that does its job. What areas are you fishing? ------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2014 at 4:41am
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Yes totally new to it, first time yesterday hence why I could not really get the hang of it and thought of trying out sub surface baits for casting as they may be a little more forgiving....
Fish inner harbour mainly land based and from boat occasionally . What would you suggest as a good selection of stickbaits and poppers for the inner harbour that will work if the technique is right? Like a couple of each to start with around the 130mm or 60 gram size? I just don't want to go down the road of having heaps of lures that catch fishermen rather than actual fish.
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Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2014 at 9:23am
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Well don't be dis heartened on your first attempt, there is a lot involved in getting some sort of action going - plenty of good fishers on here will tell you that. PM Sent ------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2014 at 5:53pm
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My 2 cents worth.....If you want a stick bait that is easy to work for beginners and can be used with both trebles or inline 7/0 's( i like shogun inlines) that is cost effective id go for the shimano ocea pencil......i have the 185 but they do smaller ones........you can do short stabs/long sweeps or rip them across the surface.....when you sweep have a small amount of slack ..so the lure will dart under the surface....if its tight...it will just skitter across the surface and that is unlikely to get you a result........make sure you leave pauses between sweeps and dont try to do things fast.......they often get hit on the pause. I was using all of these....shimano ocea pencil 185 pilchard(has rattles)...a hitter 60 gram and a starwalker a few days ago and the ocea pencil had the best action and easiest to swim with whatever you did.....they go sub surface but they dont go under much......to be fair to the hitter i think my hooks were a bit heavy for the lure.....dont feel convinced about the rattles......they were good on cotton cordells(a popper always worth having at work ups but change the splits and trebs for owner 3/0 's as a king will wreck the stuff provided).........i caught heaps in the past on that popper both on the boat and the rocks....esp at Great Barrier island. for a sinking one you could try the smaller starwalker(sinking version).......again wont break the bank......finish is good.....again swims well with inline hooks....smaller ones for the smaller lures...maybe 6/0......however the action is effected more by the weight of hooks/rings on surface lures......just make sure it looks in perspective............when you are a bit more skilled and have more money you could look at more sophisticated lures like Falco suggests. .....they need good technique and practice...esp the likes of Carpenters. ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 4:09pm
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Check out the Starwalker stickbaits. They have sinking versions in 160mm and 180mm in realistic colours and other popular colours. these are well proven designs and easy to swim. ------------- give it death! |
Posted By: ginga
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 5:26pm
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Yep the starwalkers are a great bait, and easy to use as well. One of the lures that will catch fish with a simple cast and retrieve method, throw in a bit of rod work and they are even more effective. ------------- www.extremesportfishing.co.nz. Agent for Carpenter, Orion and ASWB products |
Posted By: skippy_lad
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 1:33pm
| Their only 24 bucks at fco |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 1:41pm
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I have used the star walkers (and lost them) in the solomons, certainly worked up there! :-) ------------- It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection. Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer. |
Posted By: KaiKatcha
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 4:03pm
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Any other suggestions for an easy-to-work stickbait? At this stage I see Shimano Ocea and Starwalker mentioned. Anything else that will be forgiving for a first-timer? ------------- Less today leaves more for tomorrow |
Posted By: cod
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 4:26pm
| Williamson range pursuit has had fish to 35kgs on them you can buy three 180mm ones for $69.99 or 3 130mm ones for $49.99 at all topcatch stores and are rigged on single vmc hooks |
Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 4:51pm
| How are the Shimano orcas? |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 5:08pm
I dont know if any will still be around, but a dynamite slower action stickbait from R2C, the Doggie, was damned effective for me up in the islands.... and the star walker was also effective...  ------------- It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection. Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer. |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 7:32pm
Like these=(bottom two River2sea doggies)...the yellow one is a totally different finish(no pic sorry)....the hardware is pretty reasonable too.  ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Capt Asparagus wrote:Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 8:11pm
| They look cute almost has me wanting one |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 8:52pm
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Yup, thems the buggers! :-) That top lure there the r2c ...whatever it is I forgt, is also very very effective....   So they all work! :-) ------------- It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection. Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer. |
Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2014 at 9:35pm
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Looks like a stick of rhubarb hanging out of that fish's mouth Nice pics |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2014 at 3:13am
"Rovers" stu.......think they are available in a few different sizes as well. ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2014 at 4:37pm
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That's them! I can't say I was too enthused with them really to start with....but the fish out voted me, as soon as I finally gave one a go, it got monstered. I got a couple of the smaller ones, but they seemed to tumble a bit more than I liked on the retrieve , the small wideglides are a way better lure in the smaller size. The biggest issue I have with the wideglides is that they are such crap colours....made for the us/euro market, they may be all good for attracting fish, but they do nothing to get a fisherman to bite first! Compare with the star walkers, Chris has those in absolutely delicious colours, so you tend to use them with huge confidence. It's the old story, if a lure doesn't catch a fisherman first, it'll never catch a fish ------------- It is only my overwhelming natural humility that mars my perfection. Captain Asparagus, Superhero, Adventurer. |