Kingfish - Live Baiting On A Spin Reel?
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Topic: Kingfish - Live Baiting On A Spin Reel?
Posted By: fishoooo
Subject: Kingfish - Live Baiting On A Spin Reel?
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2014 at 10:01am
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There seems to be a bit of live-bait talk in here, so I thought I would post here. Let me know if I should move it to newbies. I've only ever put live baits out on an overhead. Whats the go with spin? Do you loosen off the drag and then rush like mad when your bait gets hit to tighten it up? Or leave the bail arm open and watch carefully? Or is the weight not that bigger deal i.e kingy wont spit it out after is feels resistance? After all they smash jigs right. Anyone use on of these clips like the Big Angry Fish boys use? http://www.topcatch.co.nz/sponsored-shows/big-angry-fish/live-bait-release-clip-big-angry-fish.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.topcatch.co.nz/sponsored-shows/big-angry-fish/live-bait-release-clip-big-angry-fish.html Cheers.
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Posted By: LouisJ
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2014 at 10:05am
I'll be following this 
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Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 9:57am
Do it the way the Big angry fish fellas do, line clip, open bail, then just before you close the bail, flick the rod tip up to give you enough slack to get the bail arm closed. Failing that, wait till Shimano brings out a Stella with bait feeder option. Now there's an idea 
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Posted By: GSPOT
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 10:05am
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Just Don't do it like this. http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=701916886535703&set=vb.213179535409443&type=2&theater" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=701916886535703&set=vb.213179535409443&type=2&theater
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Posted By: riga
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 10:47am
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I just have the drag set lightly so that the kingi can run off with it then tighten the drag smoothly until I get to the fighting drag setting. Works well and circle always hooks well. Probably get a bit extra line twist this way but no worse than the fish making a big run anyway. Means there is no clip getting in the way which I didn't like and don't have to hold the line like the open bail arm approach. |
Posted By: otter
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 11:51am
| rubber band lots easier than any clip |
Posted By: CBF-Whk
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 2:19pm
x2 rubber band and have the drag set at sunset ready to go from engagment. Dont give them an inch. CBF Whk |
otter wrote:Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 3:01pm
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Anything deepish 40m plus and just fish with reel in gear and circles, seems to work fine. ------------- I always tell the truth about things that never happened |
Posted By: Eastender
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 3:56pm
This works for me, can be tricky to close bail arm if the fish heads for Peru on the first run. |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 4:22pm
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I don't often live bait but when I do I am targeting fish not just setting and forgetting, I just feather the line with the arm open and flick the bail arm over when the time is right -I wouldn't use that clip myself as I don't fish from the rod holder but I don't doubt that it along with banding is effective. ------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: foulplay
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 4:25pm
| Eggbeaters????? Overhead man, the only way. Eggbeater will probably blow up after a few kingys anyway |
Posted By: Muppet
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 4:59pm
Agree spin reels are not for rod holders feather the line and feel the bite that is the best part too.
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Posted By: fishoooo
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2014 at 9:28pm
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Cheers all. Interesting. Cant get my head around how you'd tie a rubber band without it being stuck on the line?
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Posted By: CBF-Whk
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 9:19am
Took this pic yesterday.  Its a two bander cause I was using a very large bait. The bans just break when the king strikes. CBF Whk |
Posted By: fishoooo
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 11:40am
| Awesome CBF. Is obvious now I see it! Cheers |
Posted By: strx7
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 12:59pm
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I have caught a fair number of kingi's on a spinning reel live baiting in various water depths under a baloon, its one of the newer generaion penn spinfisher live liners though so that potentially 'cheating' a bit |
Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 1:54pm
| Question; What is the biggest/strongest baitrunner/liveliner reel? |
Posted By: Devon
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 3:11pm
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Good idea that, thanks You've still got the issue of getting the bail arm closed though
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Posted By: 700 LTR
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 3:16pm
Thunnus 12000 must be up there? |
Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 3:32pm
| I was gonna say Thunnus 12000, I've got one and it's awesome |
Posted By: Boxee
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 3:35pm
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Penn Spinfisher SSV 8500LL would be the other option. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: CBF-Whk
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 4:08pm
On this rod I use a pretty big bait when I can get them. It is set out back under a ballon. Using tuna circle hooks so try to count to 5 before lowering the rod tip and engaging the reel. Has 80lb braid on it and I set the drag at full. If you can pull line off comfortably its to soft. If you survive the first run you can "sometimes"????? lead a fish to deeper water. And sometimes you can,t lol. My other bait will be set on a down rigger this year. Only had a couple of trips out so far but is proving very effective.  The top fish is about the ideal size for the downrigger. This big ky is a little bigger than ideal but I have had this size taken by fish under 20kg too. I find if you hook a smaller fish it is not uncommon to have the horse kingy on the reef follow it to the boat. Having a bait ready has paid off heaps. CBF Whk |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 4:17pm
All this talk of live baiting is making me uncomfortable  ------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 7:21pm
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OK another question.. u put the live bait out under a balloon... and the damn thing wants to keep swimming back to the boat... how do u get around that? |
Posted By: stellajigger
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 7:28pm
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get this crap out of this area ------------- Live Bait , the Lance Armstrong of catching KINGFISH |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 7:44pm
it almost feels like days of old...------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: Pottsy
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2014 at 10:48pm
You obviously haven't fished with a decent spin reel... Stella's don't blow up too easily 
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2014 at 8:11am
Set your drag ready to fight, only use circle hooks because your fish will already pointing down on his way to the reef no need to strike just lean into it to set the circle hook. Any reel including spin can fail if it is not upto the stresses of catching kings. Buy the right gear, set your drag reasonable hard & have confidence in what your doing. IMO  ------------- Tight lines PE Pete |