Buccaneer 4.9
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Printed Date: 28 May 2026 at 6:41am
Topic: Buccaneer 4.9
Posted By: FizFisho
Subject: Buccaneer 4.9
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 3:02pm
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We are slowly building our budget toward $8-10k, glad we didnt jump on some of the junk we saw over winter. Anyway, I have no experience with this brand. The only small (sub 5m) trailer boats I have had are Haines (sport fishers). How seaworthy and solid are these Buccaneers? They seem to have a lot of strake and whilst not a gull wing, they shape out to a flat edge at the side of the beam. |
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Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 6:18pm
Buccaneers are great hulls, good ride, good looks and layout, very similar hull to Haines and far better ride than any equivalent size tinny. Had a 490 Esprite with 70hp Johnson that drove beautifully, mate had a 530 and was even better.  ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 6:33pm
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Haines 445 was the other thought. Thanks for the feedback. Now we are in a good financial position are in no rush and waiting for quality at a good price. I honestly thought we would be buying an FC430, but our total use of the boat has changed to general purpose, skiing, spearing, fishing, cruising etc. Preferably Id like a yamaha on the back but Im more familiar with servicing OMC engines. We intend to do some wakeboarding as well, so may need to install a ski pole. Also the fleetline 4.5m boats go for a good price, but Im not sure of their quality. |
Posted By: Olfart
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 7:09pm
FF....just for your interest, I have a Buccaneer 510 cabin boat - as does Kevin.S on here.  Also, I am pretty sure Family Affair (also on here) had a Buccaneer 4.9 not too long ago. I have had my boat for the last 13 years or so and have yet to find another make and model to compare with it - not that I am looking! I suggest you PM guys like Skoti, Far Quirk and Canadianjohn for their opinion of the Buccaneer hulls as they have in the past been fishing with me and can probably give you an unbiased view of how good these hulls are..... ------------- Semper in excreta sumus, solum profundum variat.... |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 7:11pm
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Seems like they have a lot of strakes olfart, really helps pushing the spray to the back? They also look good, I know its low on the list, but an old sea nymph whilst a great craft doesnt look as appealing imo. Does yours have a 90, whats the WOT speed? I had a 492f with a 75hp suzy that did about 72kph which is plenty fast enough for me given driving to the conditions seldom gets WOT. |
Posted By: Olfart
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 10:26pm
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Yeah, 90hp Yammy 2 stroker with just 27 hours on the clock, FF. W.O.T. on flat water with three P.O.B. I get around 60kph which is around 30 knots. Am currently experimenting with engine height on the transom to see If raising by one hole on the bracket will improve performance. The theory tells me it should, but you do need to factor in what the hull is capable of and also what the propeller is actually doing in terms of slip in the water. So something of a work in progress at the moment. Current performance is certainly more than adequate though. The hull is an extremely dry and stable one and I seldom if ever wear spray over the side - and that I think has a lot to do with the planing strakes. I have been out is some really nasty conditions and always come home safely and dry. Here's a pic of the boat out on the Manukau a couple of months back:  Apologies for the slightly blurred image - you can blame Smudge for that!  ------------- Semper in excreta sumus, solum profundum variat.... |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 10:39pm
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nah chur, thats brill. gives me another option. i considered a mid 80s fleetline too, but haines just has been in the family since the 70s. the buccaneer im not sure of so good to hear its equal to the task. |
Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 9:51am
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If u take your time.. u can pick up a good old commander with a late model engine, and would strongly suggest around a 130/ 150 hp... a 115 does the job but bottom end for that hull economy Bigger boat, more cabin storage than modern boats... proped right cruise around the 35+ mph loaded and 0.5 to .75 L per km (bigger engine as suggested above improves the economy) If bit rough inside, doesnt take much effort or money to strip out and replace.....more user/ family friendly, Around $1600 including a professional new bimmni and frame with side clears |
Posted By: Skoti
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 12:09pm
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Olfart wrote:Posted By: family affair
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 9:18pm
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buccaneer in my books far better than any other boat yourd buy around the 10 to 20k mark you can get bigger ie commando etc but its heaver needs more horse etc my buccaneer was awesome do 35knots all day with 4pob and gear only running a 90hp yammy old nymphs haines fleetlines etc just on the heavey side which in most cases is awesome apart from when you gotta tow da bugger plus getting biy old now iv got a fleetline x5 at the mo got it for a steal sold buccaneer to buy a house. the fleetlines good but just old and a heavey pig to tow ------------- mv maui |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 11:50am
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im also considering a haines 445 as they are so versatile at that size and easily powered by 50-70hp. basically the same hull as the formula 15 which is well famous in oz. |
Posted By: Mullins
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 12:39pm
| FizFisho, strakes = lift (below waterline) and spray deflection (above waterline) at the expense of a harder ride. |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 1:05pm
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you reckon they make a harder ride due to less slicing of the wave? i really like a reverse chine but these are really strakey which is not a style im familiar with. still got to be softer riding than a tinny right? :-) |
Posted By: MikeAqua
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 1:11pm
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In some designs the lift generated by strakes gives a softer landing. |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 1:23pm
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good info mike, we all have so much experience with different boats that its not hard to get quality oil in the boat shed. im pretty keen on the buccaneer over an old 70s sea nymph. was bonito a good brand? living in aus for so long im not so familiar with kiwi built boats. |
Posted By: Mullins
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 1:41pm
Explain?
It's a generalisation, but the more lift you have, the faster it will arrest the boat's downward momentum when it makes contact with the water, which means a harder landing. That's not to say the buccaneer design is in any way hard riding, since strakes are just one factor. Deadrise and weight are presumably the biggest.
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Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 2:00pm
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wouldnt that lend itself to more porpoising? (of course a trim will rectify the issue) |
Posted By: MikeAqua
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 2:25pm
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It's complicated. Has to do with the angle of the strakes relative to the hull and their size. On the advice of naval architect, I took a strake off my boat (alloy) to improve the ride. The bottom edge of the strake angled downward moving away from the hull. It should have been flat or rising very slightly. I can't comment on a bonito, never been on one. Used to have a V17ft Haines Hunter (1985). Great seaworthy little boat and adequately pushed along by a 90HP 2S. If I hadn't taken up scuba diving, I would still have it. |
Posted By: Olfart
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 2:40pm
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I have no complaints at all about the soft ride in my Buccaneer....but then I always pilot the boat according to the conditions and don't see any sense at all in bashing along for the sake of it. ------------- Semper in excreta sumus, solum profundum variat.... |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 4:05pm
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I had a v17l back in the day, great boats. I had no issue diving from mine, but needed to add a few accessories for tanks etc. A reverse strake is a good thing from a dryness perspective. Im with you old fart, I tend to go slow and steady. I once pushed a $100k glass boat into a big swell offshore of NSW, hit a freak wave and she buried the nose and the wave of water over the top was fun but scary, put some crazing in the middle of the gunwales, nothing structural but learnt my lesson about driving to the condition. |
Posted By: FizFisho
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 7:03pm
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another id like to throw into the mix and get some thoughts on is the steadecraft v156, they look like they are built for speed. |
Posted By: family affair
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2014 at 8:22pm
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I had a v156 I modified da **** out of it but she was awesome boat man I sold it to a fellow fishnet member. look on my post under whats ya rig ------------- mv maui |