$1000 set up for Stickies?
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Topic: $1000 set up for Stickies?
Posted By: Tone327
Subject: $1000 set up for Stickies?
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 7:27pm
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I havent got the money for creme de la creme, but I got $1000 to spend on a land based stick bait set up. Looking for tried and true set ups that have worked for you. God forbid, it may not even cost anywhere near that. BONUS I already have a kilwell lime tip 10-15kg which is my go to rod for straylining, looking for something to have at the ready when a kingy shows up. Any help appreciated.
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Posted By: craignzcd
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 7:39pm
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hi tone.....ended up getting a set after that weekend down in tga....i brought a shimano saragosa and a shimano backbone elite 2014 model.....havent tried it out yet but was around the 650-700 mark.....have spooled it with 50lb so far .....cheers
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Posted By: Boxee
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 8:18pm
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Daiwa Saltist? 4500(10kg drag) or 6500(15kg drag). 6.2:1 ratio which is 53" on the 6500. I landed one recently for $300 nzd but there have been quite a few on Tardme recently. Good drag and fast retrieve but not so expensive that you'd hate yourself if it got rock rash.
Another option are the older Stradic 8000Fi. Definitely lighter than the Saltist, 13kg drag and 5.7:1 ratio, and they came with a spare spool... There's one on Tradey for $275.
Either way would still leave $600 plus for a rod and I think you're probably going to get a better setup spending more money in this area.
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 7:51am
 craignzcd wrote:
hi tone.....ended up getting a set after that weekend down in tga....i brought a shimano saragosa and a shimano backbone elite 2014 model.....havent tried it out yet but was around the 650-700 mark.....have spooled it with 50lb so far .....cheers |
Preemo mid range set right there…..that new BBE Topwater is a honey of a rod….A few of us here at Shimano NZ spent a good many hours dedicated to getting that one as right as possible given "price point" restraints……we're happy!
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Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 8:05am
Kezza wrote:
craignzcd wrote:
hi tone.....ended up getting a set after that weekend down in tga....i brought a shimano saragosa and a shimano backbone elite 2014 model.....havent tried it out yet but was around the 650-700 mark.....have spooled it with 50lb so far .....cheers |
Preemo mid range set right there…..that new BBE Topwater is a honey of a rod….A few of us here at Shimano NZ spent a good many hours dedicated to getting that one as right as possible given "price point" restraints……we're happy! |
Hi Kezza, what reel would you match with the rod?
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 8:18am
The Saragosa 10,000 SW is a very good option…..
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Posted By: craignzcd
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 12:29pm
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The 10000sw saragosa has drag washers top and bottom of spindle ...
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Posted By: jonocoogee
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 12:37pm
Kezza wrote:
The Saragosa 10,000 SW is a very good option….. |
Agree on this, Would still leave you over $500 for rod and braid too!
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Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 2:58pm
craignzcd wrote:
hi tone.....ended up getting a set after that weekend down in tga....i brought a shimano saragosa and a shimano backbone elite 2014 model.....havent tried it out yet but was around the 650-700 mark.....have spooled it with 50lb so far .....cheers |
Hi Craig What model saragosa? and where from?
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Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 3:05pm
Tone327 wrote:
craignzcd wrote:
hi tone.....ended up getting a set after that weekend down in tga....i brought a shimano saragosa and a shimano backbone elite 2014 model.....havent tried it out yet but was around the 650-700 mark.....have spooled it with 50lb so far .....cheers |
Hi Craig What model saragosa? and where from? |
NZ doesn't stock the 8000 unfortunetly, I bought 1 from USA, better ratio for topwater http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/saltwater_spinning/Saragosa_SW.spec_print.html" rel="nofollow - Printable Chart Saragosa SW | | Model | Line Retrieve per Crank (in.) | Line Capacity (# Test / Yards) | Power Pro Line Capacity (# Test/Yards) | Max Drag (lbs.) | S A-RB Ball Bearings | Roller Bearings | Gear Ratio | Weight (oz) | | http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/saltwater_spinning/Saragosa_SW.html#" rel="nofollow - SRG5000SW | 38 | 10/240, 12/195, 14/165 | 20/255,30/230,40/185 | 22lbs. | 5 | 1 | 5.7:1 | 16.0 oz | | http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/saltwater_spinning/Saragosa_SW.html#" rel="nofollow - SRG6000SW | 40 | 12/265, 16/170, 20/120 | 30/245,50/210,65/180 | 22lbs. | 5 | 1 | 5.7:1 | 16.4 oz | | http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/saltwater_spinning/Saragosa_SW.html#" rel="nofollow - SRG8000SW | 42 | 14/270, 16/220, 20/160 | 40/300,50/295,65/185 | 27lbs. | 5 | 1 | 5.6:1 | 24.3 oz | | http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/saltwater_spinning/Saragosa_SW.html#" rel="nofollow - SRG10000SW | 40 | 14/370, 16/300, 20/220 | 50/360, 65/290, 80/215 | 33lbs. | 5 | 1 | 4.9:1 | 24.3 oz | | http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/saltwater_spinning/Saragosa_SW.html#" rel="nofollow - SRG20000SW | 41 | 20/380, 25/310, 30/250 | 65/525, 80/445, 100/305 | 44lbs. | 6 | 1 | 4.4:1 | 33.3 oz | | http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/saltwater_spinning/Saragosa_SW.html#" rel="nofollow - SRG25000SW | 45 | 20/570, 25/49, 30/360 | 65/630, 80/520, 100/440 | 44lbs. | 6 | 1 | 4.4:1 | 34.2 oz |
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Posted By: craignzcd
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 7:13pm
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hi tone....got my set up from botany hunting and fishing.....have got the saragosa 10000 .....have already drowled over it so far......when do you move to tga?....as will be down at matata for offroad racing/photos and staying at thornton beach but heading back up sunday and hope to throw some poppers/stickbait at sulphur point sunday 5th oct....can show you it there if you like....taking surfcasting gear aswell...cheers
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Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2014 at 7:44pm
We start shifting in a couple of weeks. I wont be at the Snapper 1000, got the Sika Show in Taupo. Then off to Aussie for a couple of maintenance Shuts. Come November, its on!I am going to FCO club night tomorrow night and gonna slip in a stick bait session first, then a quickie in the morning before work  |
Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2014 at 2:10pm
Well after a bit of research and talking to some more experienced members on this forum I went for the Shimano BBE/Saragosa combo. Thanks to everyone who PM'ed and those that answered my questions. |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2014 at 2:57pm
good option mate….you will have a ton of fun!!
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2014 at 6:18am
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BBE PE5-8 8'3" 2PCE TOPWATER vs TDRV230 - SPIN STICKBAIT 10/24 2PCE - which is a better rod for casting land based?
Am also looking for a new rod for myself to be more general purpose I guess for straylining, popping, stickbaiting, live baiting, etc from the rocks to run a saragosa 10000 with 2 spools of braid, 1 x 15ish kg and 1 x 24kg
have been looking at both rods for a while now but still can't decide on one or the other 
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Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2014 at 6:55pm
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Hi Kaimaikid. I pondered over this too. I have a Kilwell 10-15 limetip with a baitrunner for straylining and use a new BBE for topwater. I didnt want one rod to cover all as luck always has it, when you have a fillet of Kahawai out for XOS snapper, a friggin king cruises past. So I wanted a seperate rod specifically for casting to kings.
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2014 at 7:43pm
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A 3rd rod will come later on when the budget allows :)
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Posted By: Tone327
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2014 at 11:02pm
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I have two main rods. Strayline and topwater.
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2014 at 9:34pm
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took the plunge and got a nice shiny saragosa 10000 sw spooled with 24kg braid and matched to a t-curve revo 10-24 8'2" sticky rod
all goes well will hopefully blood it tomorrow :)
Got a great deal from TC Tga.
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Posted By: OneWayTraffic
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2014 at 8:04am
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There's a brand new Stella, Terez, Braid and lures combo on Trademe for $1200 bid. Someone won a prize.
Closes later today.
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2014 at 5:02pm
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I must admit that I am impressed how well the T-Curve Revo casts - getting some good distance with it - now to fight a fish....
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2014 at 6:32am
A good second hand dedicated stickbait rod & one of the new Saragosa range to suit the line class of the rod would be my pick. That only works if you have the time or patience to wait for the right rod to come up second hand.
Good luck it's a lot of fun watching Kings raging after your stickbait
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Tight lines
PE Pete
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Posted By: skippy_lad
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2015 at 5:01pm
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has any one tried the fin nor offshore reels for stickies
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Posted By: GarageTackle
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 12:18pm
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The Saragosa SW is a quality entry level reel, currently running a 6K for a PE3 outfit and can't fault it.
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Posted By: kaimaikid
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2015 at 1:38pm
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A mate has the Fin Nor lethal 100 reel - said that it was built like a Russian tank, solid as but certainly no frills
http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/lth10.html
is a report on them
I use a Saragosa 10000 SW myself and that is a very smooth nice reel
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