Backbone elite popper rods
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Popper and Topwater Fishing
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Topic: Backbone elite popper rods
Posted By: southernwanderer
Subject: Backbone elite popper rods
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 9:43am
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Yes they are cheap, and they feel stiff as a crow bar, but are they value for money? Will they "swim" a stick? Or are they just a crude poopper rod? I know some people have and do use them, what are your opinions on them?
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Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 10:40am
| they are just a crude popper rod, but stiffer. I really disliked mine, upgraded very early on. |
Posted By: Helmsy
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 10:49am
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Structfab wrote:Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 10:54am
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I used to use one for heavy straylining in foul country, was good for levering fish out of the kelp. Didn't cast that well though. |
Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 11:11am
Has anybody tried one of the next generation Backbones? I've seen the jig rods, and like the colours, and wondering if the next gen rods maybe an improvement, or same. Its that or or try and find a "cheap" offshore t-curve, thinking the 10-24kg model ??? I just want something for a backup rod, or off the rocks, as south island kings don't seem to go much over 30-40lb, i don't see the point in skull dragging them out with a Kaibutsu 
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Posted By: Helmsy
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 11:21am
| I had a Van Staal popper rod for a couple of years which had a much nicer action for a similar price. |
Posted By: Helmsy
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 11:22am
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These are awesome value for money too, much softer through the tip and will work sticks and poppers http://www.fullonfishing.co.nz/contents/en-uk/p2201_Okuma_Andros_PE4_-_6_80_2_piece_Popper_Rod.html
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Posted By: Nomis
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 11:39am
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Mate the new ones are awesome make sure you check them out in your local.. Nothing like the old memories of the back breaker back bones of old. Defiantly worth a look if your after value for money. Id own one..... ------------- I'll act my age when im 69 |
Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 11:43am
Yeah i have looked at the Andros rods, they have a nice soft tip for a popper rod, but they're a heavy arse rod, and only retail for 30-50 bucks less than the T-curve, which i would go with if i was to spend that much
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Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 11:51am
 so may have to bide my time, any idea what they going to retail at?
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Posted By: Nomis
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 12:06pm
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Will be around the same money mate! hopefully on shelves soon!!! ------------- I'll act my age when im 69 |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 12:34pm
the 2014 BackBone is a vast improvement in both look and feel…..we had the opportunity to give the entire range a facelift and that is what we did… …enjoy!
Just FYI - The "popper" rod has been superseded by a more user friendly and versatile "top water" rod…..Tony Orton who is a topwater loony rates the new Backbone very highly and he has used all the big names. ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 12:38pm
| Any idea on when they will be in southern regions Kezza? |
Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 12:43pm
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They are available now SoutherWanderer…as you say it's up to the retailers to make them available depending on their cycles……ask your local for ETA? ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 12:48pm
Then the race is on who will be first to make the sale
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Posted By: TOSF
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 3:33pm
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I have been using and testing the "New" Backbone Elite Topwater 832 for about 4 months (been using a demo rod). To be 100% honest I am a tackle whore and love expensive, shinny kit BUT this rod has just been awesome, its bloody cheap (I think around $250 retail) has a great action for 70-120grm stick baits, small poppers and heaps of back bone to lift bigger fish. It has been a hell of a lot of fun using this rod and it makes me happy every time I have caught fish on it and knowing it works well at a fraction of the cost of some of the bigger named rods. Before all the PRO's get on the wagon, yep its no Carpenter BUT for the price its bloody amazing value for money. Like I say we have been using it for 4 months, no issues with and its been catching fish and has a great action for the buck! I think these are in the shops now? ------------- http://www.facebook.com/TonyOrtonSportFishingOffshoreAdventures www.offshoreadventures.net http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: sid fishus
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 3:54pm
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So an actual stickbait rod, from one of the main manufacturers finally?? Rather than all the popper rods they have been saying 'work for stick baits too!' (Tui add, only if it is a sinking bait) for the last few years. Finally....... ?  Dont mean to sound too persnickety, but I have run into quite a few telling me a rod is good for stick baits when it isnt. However you should know Tony and I will seek one out for a bend, it is a good thing if there is something to work touchy floating stickbaits in that price bracket, I havent seen anything else yet.
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Posted By: TAZEE
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 4:05pm
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If you guys can't find the Rod at your Local i'm happy to help you out http://www.wslaurie.co.nz/shimano-backbone-rods/1522-shimano-backbone-elite-pe4-8-8-popper-rod-.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.wslaurie.co.nz/shimano-backbone-rods/1522-shimano-backbone-elite-pe4-8-8-popper-rod-.html This new 2014 Range is outstanding......and Real Value for Money..... Tazee ------------- WWW.WSLAURIE.CO.NZ The Best fishing spot In New Zealand |
Posted By: TOSF
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 4:19pm
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Sid Fishus, do not expect a carpenter for $250, its a value for money rod and has a great action. My one sits proudly in the rack with rods at over 3-4 times the price, love it and it comes on the boat every day. Its a great entry level rod and a great second rod for the experienced guys wanting a rod for their mates to use. Love to hear your feedback when you give it a bend! ------------- http://www.facebook.com/TonyOrtonSportFishingOffshoreAdventures www.offshoreadventures.net http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 4:57pm
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Matched with a Saragosa 10,000SW this combo will br hard to beat as far as bang for buck goes....👍 ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 5:28pm
Now the owner of the new Backbone Elite topwater rod  For those who have had a chance to swing on one of these what weight are the "sweet spot" in the casting? Off for a play in the morning
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Posted By: NZ Critter
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 5:40pm
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It is an impressive rod for the $. We were throwing our Aotealures with it on the last couple of trips with Tony. Around 110 grams and it cast beaut. Keeza. I would like to try it with the Saragossa 10000. What is the retrieve per crank compared to the stella 14000? ------------- "AOTEALURES" Hand Crafted In NZ |
Posted By: TOSF
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 5:40pm
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We have been flicking 70-100gm lures with it fine. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/TonyOrtonSportFishingOffshoreAdventures www.offshoreadventures.net http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2014 at 5:48pm
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Boy is my wallet going to get a fright, time to start buying some stickbaits, roll on summertime!
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Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2014 at 1:13pm
Went and fired a few casts with the new BBE Topwater rod this morning, see what sort action i could get out of a few my merger stash of lures. Awesome rod! Roll on Summer!!!
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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2014 at 3:04pm
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Well done SW....glad you enjoyed the new BBE Topwater....we spent plenty of time getting it sussed over a 12mnth period....in fact we're all very stoked with the 2014 Backbone range...:) ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: southernwanderer
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2014 at 9:49am
Out of curiosity and for future reference, what is the drag rating for the topwater? I'm guessing 9-10kg is safe?
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Posted By: azzaman
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 4:58pm
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Hiya Am off to white Island on Cascade in a few weeks chasing Kings. Was thinking about one of these rods to chuck around a few stick baits out there. The stickbaits I have are the Jigstar Starwalker 180's. These are either 100 or 130 grams dependant on whether floating or sinking (I have both types to use)........Do you think this rod would suit please??? Ie would it be up to it? Am liking them due to the versatility (as I also may chuck a popper around) and price....thoughts??? |
Posted By: Wallopit
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 6:05pm
| I've cast 100g star walker on mine sweet as but had a 130g and it felt too heavy. I'd stick probably between 60-110g |
Posted By: segador
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2014 at 12:33am
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