Jig man V's jig man ultra
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Topic: Jig man V's jig man ultra
Posted By: PE Pete
Subject: Jig man V's jig man ultra
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2014 at 9:27pm
Aside from the price what's the diffs?
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 12:57am
Higher breaking strains in their PE classes for a start Pete.....Not sure what else....Jigman is an 8 carrier braid....so no slouch.
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Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 7:28am
Yeah pretty much what The Dood said. Think its mainly higher breaking strain, the ultra is the newer braid. PE6 in the ultra WX8 has a breaking strain of 86lb, PE6 in the X8 is rated 70lb. Its real nice stuff, pricey, but you can get it for about half the price getting it shipped from Japan compared with what it sells for here.
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 6:23pm
Stonefish where is best to order from in Japan? Do you have to pay extra tax when it comes into NZ.
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Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 6:58pm
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jpangler.com is good. Don't have to pay taxes as long as the cost isn't over Customs threshold, theres a good iphone app called "What's My Duty" that you can plug the numbers into before you buy something to check if your going to get stung with taxes. Usually if what your buying is under about $250 NZ your pretty sweet.
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Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 7:09pm
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Varivas Max Power braid is good as well, can get that from plat.co.jp
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Posted By: Rotate
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 7:44pm
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keep it under $400 nz mate including freight.if over goes it gets a duty of 15% and then one off handling price.i buy from the sates almost weekly and uk alot with ebay etc
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Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 8:12pm
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Australia has more relaxed rules than us, as long as its under $1000 (oz $) it doesn't get taxed.
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Posted By: Rotate
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 8:38pm
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yea they trying to change that over there aswell as thats alot of stuff you can get for under that,it is hurting there retailers .i find my self buying in smaller lots and that limits what is worth my while.still big savings to be had.like alot of the car stuff i get can it can be up to 50% saving so worth the effort. sorry back on topic
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 9:10pm
laidbackdood wrote:
Higher breaking strains in their PE classes for a start Pete.....Not sure what else....Jigman is an 8 carrier braid....so no slouch. | Gidda Jon, worth paying the extra bucks or just stick with regular jigman?
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 9:25pm
I have always liked the jigman....so i have never been there pete......Up to you dood......You can always give it a go but i have no complaints with the YGK Jigman X8.
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 9:27pm
stonefish wrote:
Australia has more relaxed rules than us, as long as its under $1000 (oz $) it doesn't get taxed. | ,,,,,TRUE.John Key wants your money!
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Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2014 at 9:56pm
laidbackdood wrote:
stonefish wrote:
Australia has more relaxed rules than us, as long as its under $1000 (oz $) it doesn't get taxed. | ,,,,,TRUE.John Key wants your money! |
Yeah, but David 'Cunny' Cunliffe wants more of it.
Anyway, back to topic, I've got the Jigman Ultra PE6 and PE3 on my sets, like it alot.
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2014 at 1:00am
stonefish wrote:
laidbackdood wrote:
stonefish wrote:
Australia has more relaxed rules than us, as long as its under $1000 (oz $) it doesn't get taxed. | ,,,,,TRUE.John Key wants your money! |
Yeah, but David 'Cunny' Cunliffe wants more of it.
Anyway, back to topic, I've got the Jigman Ultra PE6 and PE3 on my sets, like it alot. |
There you go Pete....a good recommendation.....just got to weigh up the price difference and if you feel its worth it. There is some ygk x8 on e bay(aussie) that is a good price....coming from hong kong mind! But i havent noticed any difference.....used pe5 on my trini 16N. 
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2014 at 7:39am
Sweet fellus I think the regular Jigman will do the job but hey who knows till I get in front of the two options. It's to go on new BX400 DFS Slammer in blue which in turn will go on the Kaha100, will discuss the two options with Kane when I place my order today.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2014 at 9:07am
Pete, go with Daiwa Saltiga boat braid, you can buy a 1800yd spool for $300 landed so only a bit dearer than a 300m spool of the Jigman. Do the maths Never had a problem with it yet and a quality braid
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Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2014 at 9:30am
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Kaveman where's the best place to get the boat braid from? I haven't been able to find a source.
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Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2014 at 9:31am
Have always used Ultra, but then have a few mates that have a lot of experience (like Kaveman) that swear by it (Daiwa). I have one of my big stellas loaded with it, not sure which one anymore TBH so probably an indication that I am completely happy with it too.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2014 at 9:40am
stonefish wrote:
Kaveman where's the best place to get the boat braid from? I haven't been able to find a source. |
Ebay is best, plenty of reputable stores that stock it but price does vary
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281347569113?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com/itm/281347569113?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2014 at 3:55pm
That is a good price kev......forgot about saltiga boat braid.
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2014 at 6:04pm
Ok so after quick chat with Kane while placing my order I have gone with Jigstar Katana PE4 which hes loading on the reel. Did a bit of research last night & see the Katana is nice n thin at .32 & punches out good poundage at PE4 66lb So happy days
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 6:43pm
I use returned from the 3 Kings having spools all my reels with Katana braid. I'm impressed with this braid and it never let me down. Katana is an 8 carrier so round, smooth and strong but at really good prices.
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 6:52pm
Yeah well priced Chris, have never used it before so looking forward to giving a go. Kane recommended it & I trust he would be upfront about this as it's going onto one of his new Slammers. So happy days mate!
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Posted By: fastjig
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2014 at 8:54am
Hi,All braid is made from PE, what you pay for is the knitting. Jigman ultra is knitted tighter than jigman, so it packs better on the reel, is rounder, and has higher abrasion / wear resistance. Both are eight carrier, thats 8 main fibers knitted together. Most cheap braid is four carrier that why it's "lumpy" and thats why cheap braid get microscopically torn quicker and fails sooner.
It takes more machine time to knit it tighter so it costs more, thats why often thinner line weight cost more than heavier . cheers Greg
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2014 at 10:08am
Thanks for that Greg.
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Posted By: alan syme
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2014 at 10:40pm
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Can vouch for the jigstar katana braid being very good in my opinion.
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2014 at 3:26am
Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2014 at 7:41pm
Just a quick update, I had a rather unfortunate first outing recently with the Katana PE4. I had two hookups & on both occasions the braid broke. I should add at this point that neither I or my supplier are exactly sure why this happened. I have changed it out for Jigman Ultra & will send samples off to my supplier. I want to reiterate that I am not bagging Jigstar or the Katana product & at this time it is unknown what caused the breakages. Just wanted to update this thread. Cheers Pete
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Posted By: Rob Optimist
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2014 at 8:01pm
PE Pete wrote:
Just a quick update, I had a rather unfortunate first outing recently with the Katana PE4. I had two hookups & on both occasions the braid broke. I should add at this point that neither I or my supplier are exactly sure why this happened. I have changed it out for Jigman Ultra & will send samples off to my supplier. I want to reiterate that I am not bagging Jigstar or the Katana product & at this time it is unknown what caused the breakages. Just wanted to update this thread. Cheers Pete |
Would it not have been better to find out what the problem was first before putting it up here? It could have been something simple like a damaged guide.... By all accounts a very good braid
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2014 at 8:16pm
Hi Rob, have checked the guides, double checked the drag setting, even got the charter skipper to check the drag & as I stated this post is just an updated not jumping to conclusions or bagging anyone. Hope this answers your question.
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Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2014 at 8:18pm
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Tend to agree Rob. Would piss me off tho.
Don't want to hijack the thread or anything so tell me if this is out of line, but has anyone had experience with the Shimano Ocea EX8 braid. I've seen it on a few of the japanese sites, breaking strains seem pretty impressive: PE1=20lb PE2=40lb PE3=60lb PE6=99lb PE8=121lb
Can buy it in 600m spools, might look at bringing some in to have a crack with.
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Posted By: ChrisW
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2014 at 11:03am
Between Alan Syme, Jig Star Africa and ourselves, we have used Katana braid this summer at the 3Kings for 20 days of jigging that only these frontier locations can regularly offer, NO FAILURES!
I remember previous examples complaining of similar breakages on Jigman Ultra and several other braid brands. On one occasion, I asked the store just how they were spooling the braid and how they were applying tension to it. The upshot was that they were probably incorrectly applying braid tension and had damaged the braid.
I spool all my reels on my own line spooling machine that has the correct line tensioning device and have never had issues with my reel filling. These reels were used in the previous mentioned Kings trips.
I am not levelling accusations at the store or user who has spooled the braid but care needs to be taken when undertaking braid spooling. Braid does not like heat that is generated when applying line tension with even a wet glove or rag,, applying tension by braking the supply spool (under tension, the braid digs in between the wraps on the supply spool and becomes damaged when it is ripped out). Avoid braid heat when spooling and you will find the braid will deliver close to what the label states. This is much more obvious for the light thinner braids.
Peter, have the Katana braid returned to me and I will conduct a few tests over the used braid and compare against fresh braid then report back to Kane.
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Posted By: PE Pete
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2014 at 6:09pm
Hi Chris, will send a PM now mate.
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