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Topic: What is a good entry level reel?
Posted By: larsandjo
Subject: What is a good entry level reel?
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 9:17am
Hey all just brought myself a 7ft Shimano Backbone Elite 10-15kg Spin rod. And I am looking for a good reel to match it, Will be straylining and topwater fishing with it. What is a decent reel i can gt new for about 400 NZD.

Thanks all.
Btw - somthign that will easily take 300M of 30-40lb Braided line.

thanks.



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Posted By: BigMike
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 10:48am
Stradic


Posted By: larsandjo
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 10:52am
Is the stradic better compared to say a twinpower 5000HG or a Tica Talisman TG8000?


Posted By: BigMike
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 11:57am
The Twinpower would be better but its not really an entry level reel and I doubt you will get one for $400, also, a 5000 size shimano wont hold 300m of 40lb braid. I have a Stradic 5000fi and it has exactly 200m of 30lb braid.
Never used Tica Talisman, I like Shimano


Posted By: larsandjo
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 1:01pm
I can get a used Twin power for 340 Spooled with braid.  Im guessing the numbers eg 2000, 5000,8000 are spool sizes ? So I should look for the biggest one ? cheers.... sorry im new to spin... have plenty of overhead reels!



Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 2:08pm
get yourself a 5500 finnor more drag than you will need ever. dont try and keep up with the Jones-esWink and buy reels because of a name

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Posted By: larsandjo
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 2:10pm
All of my boat gear is shimano lol.. I buy quality gear and it lasts a long time! But - As I said spin stuff.... I have no idea about... I can get a 6000HG or a 6000PG for around the same price 280-360


Posted By: HB_fishdive
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 2:26pm
2x for the finnor
They are a simple reel but work well and fit in your price range/ line capacity requirements.
Love my offshore 8500


Posted By: Boxee
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 3:09pm
Hi Lars
6000 is on the small side IMHO, look for 8000, 10000 or 14000 in Shimano, 4500 5000 in Diawa and prob 6500 - 8000 in Penn.

Yes those Fin-nors are bullet proof you could pull up a shark and punch it to death with the reel, but they are heavy and casting all day will kill you.

I'm running and old Stradic 8000 FI, good retrieve and 13kg drag. It is only entry level though.



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Posted By: BigMike
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 3:35pm
Yes the number is the size of the reel.
The size you want depends of where your fishing and what your hoping to catch. A 20,000 reel generally has more drag and has a bigger capacity but if you only ever fish in the gulf its over kill. You would have more fun with a 5000 size reel. If you and using it to pitch a bait to a marlin you want more drag and capacity.
A Shimano 8000 size reel will hold 300m of 30-40lb braid and most have 10kg+ of drag which is a hell of alot to hold over the tip of a 7foot+ rod.
For stickbaits I have a Stradic 5000fj on a 30lb rod and a Stradic 8000fi on a Tcurve, both have there uses but when Im around the Auckland area I only take the smaller set.



Posted By: BigMike
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 3:37pm
Just re-read you 1st post, its a 10-15kg rod, 6000 size is sweet, a big Fin-nor would be a terrible reel on that rod IMO


Posted By: Stonefish
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 4:00pm
+1 for Stradic 8000fi. I love mine, got a faster retrieve ratio than the newer fj aswell (5.7:1 vs 4.8:1), heaps of stopping power. Usually come with 2 spools as well.


Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 4:48pm
Originally posted by BigMike BigMike wrote:

Just re-read you 1st post, its a 10-15kg rod, 6000 size is sweet, a big Fin-nor would be a terrible reel on that rod IMO

yes kinda why the 5500OS is the way to go and not heavy as has been mentioned, more drag than the shimano no plastic now thats a bonus and bullet proof well they have faults like others, line capacity is great whether 30 or 50lb braid and even use it to live bait marlin sharks and kings yip a great little reel but not a shimano ay.


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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 4:59pm
Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

Originally posted by BigMike BigMike wrote:

Just re-read you 1st post, its a 10-15kg rod, 6000 size is sweet, a big Fin-nor would be a terrible reel on that rod IMO

yes kinda why the 5500OS is the way to go and not heavy as has been mentioned, more drag than the shimano no plastic now thats a bonus and bullet proof well they have faults like others, line capacity is great whether 30 or 50lb braid and even use it to live bait marlin sharks and kings yip a great little reel but not a shimano ay.


Having a clutch to stop any back play should be considered when purchasing a reel for stickbaiting and popping, doesnt matter what brand ( despite BA's sniping) There is probably a reason most people who do lots of this style of fishing use the gear they do......



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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 5:06pm
sniping no surely not thats the facts of the matterSleepy

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Posted By: eynon
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 5:24pm
http://www.huntingandfishing.co.nz/fishing/saltwater-fishing/surfcasting/fin-nor-offshore-combo-6500-or-7500-reel-with-12-or-13-e-glass-rod-2.html




Posted By: BigMike
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 7:40pm
Yo BA Iv got nothing against Fin-nor at all. Its like I could put my boat in with an old tractor, slow, heavy, old tech, but it will pull anything. But I use my car, cause its easier, and more comfortable, and more practical and newer tech and just as reliable, and it will still pull anything I need it to. Each to there own tho ay


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2014 at 8:53pm
The best value by far for this at the moment is on the back page of Go-fish website under shimano reels.
Sorry BA and Eynon -not debating what good reel Finors are for the money and possibly taking a marlin -and yes they are good -but go to Go-fish website put in "shimano spinning reels" and go to last reel listed.
 
"And no - Enyon - the reel is not meant for big sharks" but pretty cool kingi reel for general jigging and topwater.


Posted By: accurate
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2014 at 11:55pm
Originally posted by larsandjo larsandjo wrote:

Hey all just brought myself a 7ft Shimano Backbone Elite 10-15kg Spin rod. And I am looking for a good reel to match it, Will be straylining and topwater fishing with it. What is a decent reel i can gt new for about 400 NZD.

Thanks all.
Btw - somthign that will easily take 300M of 30-40lb Braided line.

thanks.
Hi, if your looking to topwater and strayline as you post, it would be the shimano thunnus CI4. It may be a bit to slow on the retrieve for genuine topwater but it will be very difficult to find a true strayline and topwater reel, but maybe just outside the price bracket?
I caught 6 great snapper straylining and 2 80-90cm kings on stickbaits with my thunnus 4000 one evening this summer with 6-8kg rod, tough little reel.
The twin power you mention is a great deal if tidy cond and correct size. 
The stradics are great also, I have a older model 5000 that caught 23 longtail tuna in one session, the drag burned to almost fibre and still functioned, now with upgraded drag, sooo sweeet. 
So many choices out there and most people have a personal preference to brands, just make sure its the right size, line retrieve etc for the application and mostly whether you are casting all day or only occasionally will impact your choice, hope this may be some help :)



Posted By: larsandjo
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 7:59am
these are my options im looking at
Tell me your thoughts please and which one you would buy.


7/10 Shimano Stella 10,000HG with some scratches = 390

9/10 Shimano Twinpower 8000PG Great Condition = 360

9/10 Shimano Twinpower 8000HG Great Condition = 390

Brand New Tica Talisman TG8000 = 340 

Brand New Ok,uma Salina ii 16000a = 200




Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 8:17am
If that Stella is $ 390 than its a very very good deal, perfect for stick baiting, over kill for stray lining.

For me it would be the Twinpowers above the Talisman, followed lastly by the Okuma. You should have put a Fin Nor offshore in the list so you can "keep up with the "Jones-es  Spencers"


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Posted By: Kezza
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 9:00am
The NEW Shimano Spheros SW 10000….that is all:

http://www.shimanofishing.co.nz/products/reels/spinning/spheros-sw" rel="nofollow - http://www.shimanofishing.co.nz/products/reels/spinning/spheros-sw


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Posted By: eynon
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 9:17am
Originally posted by Kezza Kezza wrote:

The NEW Shimano Spheros SW 10000….that is all:

http://www.shimanofishing.co.nz/products/reels/spinning/spheros-sw" rel="nofollow - http://www.shimanofishing.co.nz/products/reels/spinning/spheros-sw

the 20000 looks quite nice. not a bad price either.


Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 10:57am
Here is a radical idea....a penn spin fisher 5500, 6500 or 7500, whichever. Robust, simple, anti reverse, air bale, great drag and well within your budget.
In fact, probably get two and be close to your budget, one smaller , one larger, one for 30lb, one for 50lb.


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Posted By: Titahi
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 11:08am
I have brought a 7500,( about 18 months ago) they are an OK reel, but certainly nothing on the ones that where made in America. The newer ones made in China sadly lack a bit of the robustness that the older ones where known for. After buying a new line roller set ( original one flew apart) I gave it to a kid on the wharf. At only $99 AUD they are cheap...........



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Posted By: leadchucker
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2014 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Kezza Kezza wrote:

The NEW Shimano Spheros SW 10000….that is all:

http://www.shimanofishing.co.nz/products/reels/spinning/spheros-sw" rel="nofollow - http://www.shimanofishing.co.nz/products/reels/spinning/spheros-sw

Agreed with this one but the Okuma Salina 2 16000S is a great option too.


Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 9:42pm
Sustain 10,000 from Gofish still my pick. 
Have fished a twin power 4000 as my go to softbait reel for last 6 years -good reel but clicker kept blowing to point we didn't replace. Still use it though.  Had a few goes with stellas, personally don't think they justify price.... can't see difference with other shimano good reels.
Got a few old style penn spinfisher  for landbased and boat straylining, will keep using on rocks - 650ss for 6-8kg and 850ss -10-15kg nylon -they are brillant reels given their age.  Quality never dies -Penns out-lasted their shimano counterparts with ease.
 


Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 11:07pm
I'm very surprised the Saragosa SW has not been mentioned. A very capable reel and a middle of the road price point.



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Posted By: Tzer
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 6:40am
Originally posted by Kezza Kezza wrote:

The NEW Shimano Spheros SW 10000….that is all:

http://www.shimanofishing.co.nz/products/reels/spinning/spheros-sw" rel="nofollow - http://www.shimanofishing.co.nz/products/reels/spinning/spheros-sw


Problem with this reel Kezza is it doesnt hold much line spec says it capicity is 50yds of 360lb Powerpro Ermm even better the Speheros SW 20000 holds 80yds of 400lb powerproThumbs Up
Didnt knw you could get powerpro in the weight, reel must be very very robust to handle thisBig smile

Seriously though I think someone at Shimano should check some of the spec info in the website as there are a few typo errors.


Posted By: worksux
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 7:07am
How would a Quantum Boca 60 baitrunner type  stand up to this style of fishing.


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Posted By: Graemep
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 8:52am
Thunnus 8000 would be my choice, has the baitrunner function and would be fine for topwater, in fact shimano market it as topwater as well. 10Kg drag and should have sufficient capacity I would think. I've used my sustain 4000 for light stickbaiting and it has more than enough capacity, although a higher drag than the thunnus 8000.
 
I also use the sustain for straylining but it's a pain having to disengage the anti-reverse or free hand the spool - I intend to buy a thunnus for this purpose purely because it has the baitrunner feature.
 
I would advise not buying somthing without a similar feature if you will use it for straylining regularly.


Posted By: Stefan
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2014 at 1:12am
I've been looking for an entry level reel myself have decided on a Fin Nor Lethal 100. Check out Alan Hawk's review on it pretty impressive. Half the price of your budget as well


Posted By: speckledknob
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2014 at 1:34am
Like others have said - if you have straylining in mind as well the thunnus ci4 is a great option. I haven't actually fished mine with bait at all yet but it has thrown a hell of a lot of lures... 8000 size would match your rod perfectly (difference between 6000 and 8000 size with shimano's is only spool depth, so you might as well go for the one with more line capacity ay...)


Posted By: Structfab
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2014 at 8:29am
Originally posted by larsandjo larsandjo wrote:

these are my options im looking at
Tell me your thoughts please and which one you would buy.


7/10 Shimano Stella 10,000HG with some scratches = 390

9/10 Shimano Twinpower 8000PG Great Condition = 360

9/10 Shimano Twinpower 8000HG Great Condition = 390

Brand New Tica Talisman TG8000 = 340 

Brand New Ok,uma Salina ii 16000a = 200


not the PG, too slow for topwater. Stella & Twinpower are very sharp prices.Twinpower 8000HG would be my pick depending on how beat up the Stella is. 7/10 could mean anything.



Posted By: BigMike
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2014 at 12:14pm
http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/stradic-8000fi-brand-new-never-used-price-drop_topic102188.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/stradic-8000fi-brand-new-never-used-price-drop_topic102188.html



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