NZ's firearm homicide rate drops

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    Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 1:17pm
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10660886
 
 
The more facts like this get spread the less ammo the anti-firearm brigade have to twist public sentiment against us  Smiley
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Good read, pleased to see it... Thumbs Up
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Then theres the latest  from the greens and as usual way behind the ball..
 
 
and their reasoning. ""Then when police turn up to an address they will then have a better idea of what guns might be inside,"    
 
Cant they get it through their stupid skulls that theres practically zilch  police callouts to bonafide hunters and the crims they do ahve to turn up to are not exactly gonna fall over themselves registering their guns..lol.
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Exactly GoingHard, even if guns were outlawed, the crims will always have them, there is a black market now amoungst the un-licenced firearm owners.....so a bit late on the stable door me thinks.
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Ermm The horse bolted the day they stopped recording against your liecense what firearms you had.
Some are trotting out the line of all private firearms to be held in a common armoury, have to lock up the knives and forks first.
 
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The national government wont outlaw guns or make wild changes. The farmers are the back bone of the party and they are not going to piss them off.
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Originally posted by feeder feeder wrote:

Ermm The horse bolted the day they stopped recording against your liecense what firearms you had.
Some are trotting out the line of all private firearms to be held in a common armoury, have to lock up the knives and forks first.
 
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Dead right, and it gave the Arms Officer at the local cop shop something to do, they actually inspected the rifle/shottie to see if it was safe.
 
Rumour has it, that this system is going to be brought back and also, if you are a FAL holder and havnt purchased a gun within x amount of time of obtaining a rifle, its gone.
 
They are regulating the wrong people, any bona fide hunters/shooters are generally super responsible, the unlicensed gun owners are the problem but the legislation doesnt affect them...
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i personally dont think registration of individual firearms will ever be brought back. The police certainly want nothing to do with it, it would be a logistical nightmare, exactly the same as it was in Aussie and a few other countries that attempted it and gave up.Might as well try to register all the ammo in nz as well. 
 i have been in several times to the Papakura police station to buy ultra cheap confiscated rifles from the massive gun lockup they keep there.Bought 5 rifles last time, and none have ever had any serial numbers or licence number etc written down and only a quick flash of the licence and hand over $500.They must make a tidy sum from selling them from the sheer amount there(several thousand at least) and not a single one's serial number noted.Often wondered how many times some of them must have been sold and then impounded, to be sold again with the police not having any records of who owns them at any given time.
 
As for "if you are a FAL holder and havnt purchased a gun within x amount of time of obtaining a rifle   licence, its gone"  the effect that would have is simply to cause the new licence owners to buy firearms asap.It would surely prove counter productive to its original purpose.
 
 
( Its a moot issue anyway.. the fact that the Police will be armed fulltime in only a few years will take all the heat off sport shooters from the anti-gun lobby i would think. )
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As for "if you are a FAL holder and havnt purchased a gun within x amount of time of obtaining a rifle   licence, its gone"  the effect that would have is simply to cause the new licence owners to buy firearms asap.It would surely prove counter productive to its original purpose.
 
 
( Its a moot issue anyway.. the fact that the Police will be armed fulltime in only a few years will take all the heat off sport shooters from the anti-gun lobby i would think. )
 
That was a similar situation when they went from 'lifetime license' to the current system.
 
A lot of people (including myself) surrenderd their 'lifetimes' rather than re-pay the fees for the present setup.
A few stations had to employ civvy desk people to cope with the influx of pissed off gun owners.
 
The rumours I spoke of come from a police officer, so who knows..
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