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    Posted: 19 May 2019 at 6:34pm
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Just looking for some advice and possible guidance on gear wise whilst rock /wharf fishing - mostly rock fishing and odd occasion from the wharf, rock fishing is mainly out coromandel way. 

I have a couple of gear that been looking at but with little experience in terms of "buying" the right gear for the occasion, I have some old beaten up gear that would use, and looking this time round to get some new gear to last and be adequate in what I want to do off rock/wharf - generally snapper, similar sized fish catching to possibly looking for kingies down the line. 

Combos that been really looking at is a 

1. Penn Slammer III 7500 + Ocean Assassin 8'2" 2pc XH - Would any one recommend this combination or is using such a setup for rock/wharf? 

2. Okuma Coronado 80 & Tournament Concept 10' 2 Piece Rod & Reel Combo

3. Daiwa BG 5000 Reel & Daiwa Saltist SJ 792H Rod

4. Shimano Socorro 10000 SW + Backbone Travel 8'2" 50-80lb 3pce

Or if anyone has any suggestions of combos to use? my budget is around $600 total for reel and rod. and then to figure what kind of line setup I should be using for rock fishing/ lb etc 


I realize that still in newbie corner of learning all that is fishing, but feel that I don't want to go into the really "cheap" as I have done in the past so many times or hand me downs from my old man that isn't recoverable. 

Thanks in advance :) 

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I would get a Thunnus 12000 or 8000 and the Tournament concept 10ft(nice rod actually) or if you could get an 11ft rod. Two of those combo's above are stickbaiting I would just get a pure baitfishing combo first and foremost. 

If you wanna save $100 on the reel have a look at the Penn baitrunners about $250. 
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Thanks Muppet, I believe I saw at local fish store combo for that very thing Thunnus 12000 and Okuma 10 ft rod, will go back and check it out. 

any thoughts about the Penn combo i posted? 

will down the track have access to a boat, so trying to get what can be used all around so to speak. 


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The go to gear for rock fisherman landing large snapper & kings sub 1 meter off the rocks is based on my recent observations a shimano saragosa 6000 size reel with 10 kg plus mono ... there are even stronger thin super monos.
A few people including myself been dusted big time landbased this weekend but sounds like the sagossa 6000 got lot closer than I did on an alvey . The alvey does not perform well on a decent king ... how did older people land big fish on those is still a mystery to me?
Anyway consensus would seem to be a 10000 Saragossa and 50 llb Braid with decent leader would be the preferred option if trying to smack down decent kings land based on baits ... otherwise , as I was reminded of this arvo,   it is pretty much one way traffic and hiding to nothing on bigger kings when on gear that isn't meant for them.
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awesome, thanks Shaneg - much appreciate the insight, and recommendation will add that to my list of looking into. :) 


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I would avoid brand combos go with what will get the job done the best. Don’t fall for a sales trap just get what feels best mix n match. Can I suggest the Davies sandstorm 11 ft would be an awesome rod for rock snapper. If you are in Auckland call Greg at Gofish he was doing mean deals on them.
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Have a look at daiwa hyper 962xhs with okuma Coronado 80 , will keep it in the $600 range. Or okuma tournament concept 10ft with thunnus 12000 ,around the $600. The okuma feels a bit stiffer in the tip than the daiwa. Save up and get a spare spool. But yeah that 11ft daiwa sandstorm with a thunnus 8000 and 8kg line is my favorite combo of the rocks. Almost forgot penn allegiance 2 10ft 10-15kg rod. Or or or daiwa sj 962hfs 962 2-5 pe. ......
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Im a great fan of the thunnus, have several.
 Before upgrading my gear, have 3 shimano OCs which are still in regular use.
Been very reliable as well, upgrading each to carbon fibre (ex Reel Repair Guy) as servicing comes around.

 Son does a heap of beach surf casting of west coast... And very rarely comes home with out a feed. Most of his beach fishing is get a feed, catch release.
A basic okuma rod and 8000 OC.. Hes not the best, to say the least, at great care of his reels. A basic rinse put away till it dies eventually dies. Its been 5 or 6 yrs now of very high use...killed a couple rods but the 8000OC keeps catching.

 Have asked him about going more up grade in his land based gear, recons just not worth it.. too easy to stuff a reel, and the 8000OC has survived way beyond its use by date.
 His boat gear, thats a very different story...rod/ reel sets light gear all up in the $800 range and heavier stuff $900/ 1200 ..

A basic okuma or shimano rod and 8000OC will serve you very, for $350/ $400
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