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    Posted: 19 Mar 2025 at 10:18pm
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Hey all, me and my partner have been crazy about fishing for the past 4 years. We love spent most weekends fishing around northern parts of nz. All from beaches, rocks, wharfs etc.

We have just purchased our first boat. 5m fibreglass. 90hp four stroke. I have been on boats however never been "skipper" for a day. Didn't grow up on boats with family etc.

I am doing a day skippers course. But really just seeing if anyone has any other tips or advice. Mainly fishing Manukau harbours for anything to eat and kingfish as weve never caught one. Mrs, 2 young kids. Places to do overnight stays on boat would also be appreciated.

Thanks for any help or tips in advance.



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One of the best pieces of advice anyone gave me for the Manukau Harbour is to never risk a short cut across a sand bank on an outgoing tide. It can be a very long wait to get home if it goes wrong.  Also take a little tour around the harbour on a very low tide to see all the sand banks, you will be surprised how shallow it is in places you wouldn't expect. 

Day skipper course is an excellent start, also look into a vhf course  -technically you need that certificate to use a VHF radio (although I've never heard of that rule being enforced).
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It's going to be a steep learning curve, it was for all of us that didn't grow up boating. General advice, go slow, both metaphorically and literally. Build up to bigger trips, start small. No need to hoon around, take it slow until you get a feel for where the sandbanks are in your area as Kevin said. To my mind the most difficult parts of boating are launching and retrieving. Again, when retrieving, take it slow. Far better to have a low speed collision with a wharf than a faster one! Aim to launch at a concrete boat ramp with a wharf to begin with, it makes life so much easier. Avoid the busy times as this will only increase stress. Saturday mornings in summer for example. 
 
Learn how RPM and motor trim influence each other, especially with respect to getting on the plane. Something that I knew nothing about when I got my first boat! Every boat is different, but start with the motor in the lowest position, push up the RPM, once some speed has been obtained and you are on the plane, you can start raising the motor to achieve the most fuel efficient travel. I can't give specific numbers, you'll have to work it out for yourself and your boat. 

Motor down, bow down. Motor up, bow up. Once on the plane, bow down gives a more stable ride, but bow up is more fuel efficient to a point. There are exceptions. In a short, sharp, smallish chop, bow up puts you over the top of the waves for a more comfortable ride. More experienced boaties may disagree, these are things I've worked out for myself.

Anchoring is not always as easy at it looks. If you're looking to do overnighters and sleep in the boat, this will require some attention. Make sure you have enough chain and rope and the right size anchor. You need to think about the effect of tide changes on your length of anchor rope and what direction the boat will swing in different winds and currents if close to land or structures above the surface.

Safety gear. VHF, life jackets, PLB, working phone flares etc. Coastguard membership, just do it! 

So much to learn which is fun, but also a bit scary at times! 
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Find yourself a marine forecast site that can be trusted. The Akl guys will chip in with what they use. Always check it just before heading out.
Get an idea of what is decent and what is marginal. Again, the Akl guys will chip in. It will be location dependant - what works in say the Manakau may not work elsewhere. Lots to learn.
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MB- Thanks alot for your advice. Another of things there to think about that hadn't crossed my mind yet. Definitely going to start with small trips with experienced people.

Didn't know about the motor being up and down for a specific reason.

Alot of knowledge there to think about and further research.

Thanks heaps
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I would say you should look to join the coastguard and join a boating/fishing club, go to meetings and fishing contests to meet people who you can go boating and fishing with.

The east coast would be a better and much safer place to learn to use your boat. The boat ramp down at Okahu bay is well setup with pontoons on both sides and the Outboard Boating Club has just opened up memberships and is a great setup with plenty of people around that can help you if you get yourself in trouble.

There’s always time to learn how to boat and fish on the manukau, learn how to drive and anchor your boat first.
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Thank you for your advice mate.

Why is the east coast much better? I would prefer to go Hauraki Gulf. However I thought the harbour would have been safer to learn in.

Less wind and swell to worry about. Leaving me to focus on learning my boat. Or am I assuming this wrong?

Or is it simply the sand bars in the manukau that make it much more dangerous. And the gulf being much deeper?

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Generally the Manukau harbour has a high tidal flow and the currents are much higher, a lot of sandbanks (mudbanks) are exposed a low tide low tide so it is easy to run aground as it approaches low tide. You need to keep a close eye on your chartplotter, if you head out on a low tide you will understand. Bearing mind the bigger a tide is, the more it goes out - meaning it is much shallower at low tide than it is on a smaller tide cycle. It also means that there is more tidal flow or current during a big tide. That also means conditions can change quickly with a wind and/or tide change.

Pick your days and you will be ok - no more than 10knots wind max to start with. The big tides occur every two weeks on the full and new moon cycles. During those times the high tides are around midday. Avoid the outgoing tides initially because if you do run aground you will be stranded for a long time. It's a good idea o avoid the shallows on an outgoing tide at least until you learn the ropes.
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As smudge says above, lots of tidal flow on the manukau and when you get wind against the tide in fairly shallow water you can get very tricky boating conditions. It can push your boat around sideways quickly and then you can be in trouble.

Wait until you do your boat coarse and ask the person doing the training, they will put you right.

I would learn to boat in the inner gulf out of a good well setup boat ramp where it’s very easy and safe to put your boat in. The boat ramp is where a lot of mistakes can happen and it doesn’t take much to put your wife and kids off boating.

The other good thing about the east coast there’s generally always someone around if you get in trouble, you’re boating coarse will teach you how to signal to another boat that you need help, things like got the anchor stuck or got something stuck around your prop. There’s a lot of things that can go wrong.

Also make sure you have all the safety equipment and you know how to use it. Get your wife to do the boat coarse with you so she can drive the boat, pull up the anchor or cut it off if needed. I remember I was out once with my wife and daughter, me and my daughter jumped over the side for a swim and with out realising there was some current ripping and next minute we were quite a ways from the boat. We did manage to swim back but it was a real struggle and if we couldn’t get back my wife would have needed to pull up the anchor and come and get us and yes we had life jackets on.

There’s also nothing wrong with practicing safety drills like if you hit a log and you have to leave the boat, who grabs what, the flare pack or cell phone and always where you’re life jackets put them on at the ramp before you get in the boat and take them off when you’re back at the ramp.
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I get my wife to start the boat and get it underway as often as possible once we're away from the ramp. I dive, so that's important plus it's nice to know that she could get home by herself if really needed.
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Lot of great advise there, especially wives learning to drive the boat also so at least they know what to do
i just want to go fishing..........amd ignore all my adult problems
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