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Thats them smudge,yes on hook swallowers,just cut the trace each time.Wrapped a couple in a towel where the hook was just in mouth.tough little buggers.
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If you catch a hiwihiwi it's a good time to move on. I steer clear of the harbour entrance because we usually do well closer to home. That said, the Huia Baks & South chanel are very productive areas. 

If you can visualise a line between Paratutaeand the Lighthouse, Beyond that is what I consider to be the danger zone. That s what defines the harbour from the west coast. Go past there and you are in a potentially dangerous area
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I’d agree with what Smudge is saying -if I catch hiwihiwi I’m in the wrong spot and the lighthouse to paratutae is a good line for safety although in summer the hole of Paratutae is good to drift over slack water for snapper .
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Originally posted by Legacy Legacy wrote:

I’d agree with what Smudge is saying -if I catch hiwihiwi I’m in the wrong spot and the lighthouse to paratutae is a good line for safety although in summer the hole of Paratutae is good to drift over slack water for snapper .

Yeah man, drift that over high tide fr some good snaps!
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Walking dogs at Foster bay saw this John Dory washed up - I have size 9 feet.  Cannot say I have caught many in Manukau - only 1 over the years outside the harbour.
Freezing brisk SW!
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Every day is school day;  I thought that hiwihiwi and marble fish were one and the same . . .  but it seems they are not!  They look strikingly similar but apparently are totally unrelated.

I was joking about them being poisonous by the way.  We see marble fish diving in the Manukau and I had assumed that those we hooked were the same species, but uncle google tells me the marble fish only eat kelp, whereas hiwihiwi are meat eaters.

Next thing someones gonna tell me that kingfish are not just adult jack-mackerel.


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Jack mackerel are only juvenile kingfish AlexBig smile OK joking, joking! I know there are more species of fish oin the harbour than possibly any of us know. Didn't know marble fish were there!

I have never caught a Johnnie in the harbour or over the coast Macskipper but Skoti caught one on my boat a few years back and his dad has caught one as well. Both in the 'kura channel

How about a a list of what we've caught/seen in the harbour?
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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

How about a a list of what we've caught/seen in the harbour?

Sure smudge! Here's my list (not all caught by myself but I have witnessed:

Puffer fish
Stargazer
Blue fish
Basterd red cod
Snapper
Gurnard
Trevally
Kahawai
Kingfish
Scorpion fish
Spiny dog fish
Carpet shark
Tope (school shark)
Bronze whaler shark
Hammerhead shark
GW shark
Mako shark
Blue sharkShocked
Hiwihiwi
Short tail stingray
Eagle ray
Sole
Yellow belly flounder
Sand flounder
Sand eels
Grey mullet
YE mullet
Piper
Jack mackerel
Blue/slimey/English mackerel
John dory
Seven gill shark
Anchovy
Glass shrimp
Those thumb splitter thingies that I cant remember the name of
Red crayfish
Triplefin
Red moki
Parore
Snake eel
Conger eel
Long fin eel
Sucker fish (dunno real name
Seahorse
Baracoutta (how do you spell that?)

Probably a heap more!

[Edit] Try spotted dogfish/rig for a start!
[Edit][Edit] sweep

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Thanks "Smudge" would being near open sea bring a lot of those across the bar or would they be residents??
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That's from the harbour, A few more from the coast:

Arrow squid
Striped marlin
Skate
Blue cod
Albacore tuna
Skipjack tuna
Saury (seen but never caught)
Terakihi

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I know of a few others too but never personally witnessed:
Blue marlin
Black marlin
BB swordfish
Bluenose
Gemfish
Oilfish
Japanese gurnard
Hapuku
Bass
Bluenose
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Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

Thanks "Smudge" would being near open sea bring a lot of those across the bar or would they be residents??

some of those fish a just little things. Some are winter only such as coutta, spiny dogs. Others will turn up from time to time eg seven gill sharks in October, some are random (carpet sharks, blue fish) and others will only be caught in certain areas (parore, scorpion fish etc etc).
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Originally posted by MacSkipper MacSkipper wrote:

Walking dogs at Foster bay saw this John Dory washed up - I have size 9 feet.  Cannot say I have caught many in Manukau - only 1 over the years outside the harbour.
Freezing brisk SW!



Never seen one in the harbour or over the bar , I always figured the kahawai ate any juvenile ones before they had a chance .

That’s a hell of a list Smudge , don’t think I’ve caught half of them .
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I caught an octopus in a scallop dredge
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Thumb splitter. Mantis shrimp . Mate
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Originally posted by gumboot gumboot wrote:

Thumb splitter. Mantis shrimp . Mate

Thanks Gumboot, 4 Lion Browns in and couldn't remember! 

Ohhh yeah 3 octopus too
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Originally posted by Legacy Legacy wrote:

Originally posted by MacSkipper MacSkipper wrote:

Walking dogs at Foster bay saw this John Dory washed up - I have size 9 feet.  Cannot say I have caught many in Manukau - only 1 over the years outside the harbour.
Freezing brisk SW!



Never seen one in the harbour or over the bar , I always figured the kahawai ate any juvenile ones before they had a chance .

That’s a hell of a list Smudge , don’t think I’ve caught half of them .

I didn't catc them all! Most of them though :)
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I did catch a big crayfish on a flasher rig over in Wattle bay , quite a few years ago .
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Originally posted by Legacy Legacy wrote:

I did catch a big crayfish on a flasher rig over in Wattle bay , quite a few years ago .

Nice! A mate caught one once in 50m behind the Manukau bar on the west coast once
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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Originally posted by gumboot gumboot wrote:

Thumb splitter. Mantis shrimp . Mate


Thanks Gumboot, 4 Lion Browns in and couldn't remember! 

Ohhh yeah 3 octopus too
smudge please tell the story of the mantis shrimp. Are these the same mantis shrimp acclaimed to be the fastest creature on earth the ones that hit their prey so fast with one of their 23 or so appendages the water boils?
Why choose either diving or fishing when you can do both. Besides crayfish tail is very good bait!!
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