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Yes, they are slimy mackerel, sometimes called blue mackerel or, confusingly, sometimes called slimy mackerel when they are small and blue mackerel when they are big. They are all the same fish, same species, and the shape of the big adults is as you described. 
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http://www.unitedfisheries.co.nz/content/blue-mackerel-scomber-australasicus

They are pretty common at this time of the year. They go by a few names, blue mackerel, Spanish mackerel, slimy mackerel, English mackerel.

They are powerful fish, they fight like a little tuna when they get big.
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Got this guy a while ago off the Manukau Coast, and thought it was a blue mac, until i saw the above link.
Sorry i missed out the tail, but hopefully someone can ID it? Never seen one like this in my short life time fishing.
Why choose either diving or fishing when you can do both. Besides crayfish tail is very good bait!!
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the above fish is either a jack mack (most likely) or a horse mack
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Anyone know if this is a convict grouper?

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Yes it is.
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No its not:


It used to be called Epinephelus octofasciatus. Its correct scientific name is now Hyporthodus octofasciatus. 

It also used to be confused with Epinephelus septemfasciatus, a species from Japan that is now called Hyporthodus septemfasciatus.
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Fishman, CrayZfish posted a pic of a big mackerel caught a few weeks ago. They turn up occasionally out west and I saw 2 in the weekend that were 50cm plus. Rather slender compared to a Jack mack but much bigger.Well as far as I'm concerned they are Big smile. They are  little more blue when fresh. Can you give your thoughts?
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Yeah Smudge, that pic of the jack mack is not the best. Pretty hard to tell anything from it. The three jack mackerel species we have in New Zealand are hard to tell apart at the best of times. There is no quick anatomical feature you can point to that differentiates one species from the other.

However, that looks like a Chiliean jack mackerel (Trachurus murphyi) to me. They tend to be long and fairly slender with a silver body colour and a tail that is not yellow, but without the specimen in hand it is hard to say definitively.

Groupers are much easier Smile


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Nice, thanks for that FishMan. I suspected the two I saw were Chilean Jack mackerelsimly because of the size.
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My youngest caught this fish yesterday in Rangiputa. Is it a wtasse?
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It's a hiwihiwi or kelp fish
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Kelpfish or hiwihiwi (Chironemus marmoratus). Commonly found in wave washed rock cracks close to shore. An absolute expert at swallowing hooks. I won't describe some of the other names it is called
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Originally posted by FishMan FishMan wrote:

   I won't describe some of the other names it is called
I already know them
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Thanks guys. one opinion is they are bad eating as bony. Can you confirm? Also is their any reason Maori don't want to touch them (aside from the spines)? ie legend or myth?
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Have heard its ok eating, heaps of bones in them so to some not worth the fuss mucking around with boney fish

The locals I spoke with at the "bluff" on 90mile beach said they boiled them up
food is just food to some people

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OH Lethal's is the biggest one.
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