How to fillet Kingfish and John Dory

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    Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 11:41pm
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Not my work but certainly better than my efforts, here's a link to a great post by The cook in The Kitchen forum:

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Thanks smudge, always nice to share a bit of knowledge.
With regards to cooking crispy skin John Dory, it might look a bit daunting but its not to hard once you get used to it. I encourage you all to give it a try, even if you dont get it quite right it will still taste great.
As with most things in life practice is the key.
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Thanks smudge you have posted an edifying thing.
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just thought i would add this clip to compliment the OP; its a kingi broken down into flat fillets rather than steaks. whats most impressive is the respect for the fish and the maximum use of the catch - barely any waste

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That knife is seriously sharp!
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hahaha breathe on that knife it'll cut you but very well done love him cleaning knife after every cut
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Originally posted by chillwave chillwave wrote:

just thought i would add this clip to compliment the OP; its a kingi broken down into flat fillets rather than steaks. whats most impressive is the respect for the fish and the maximum use of the catch - barely any waste
This makes me want to go and get a set of Japanese knives... Serious $$ but would be so worth it. 

My old man has a set of quality filleting knives which he's had for years and have been sharpened so many times that they getting a bit thin. These would make a great replacement. If anyone has any recommendations on where to get quality (and I'm talking premium quality, not just "good quality from Top Catch" kind of thing) then I'd love to know about them :)
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Nice video. Thanks for posting.
Looks like kingfish was bled too. Almost no blood in the bone line.
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I know Yeehaa in Panmure were bringing in some japanese sashimi knives recently. Otherwise Victory do nic stainless knives, and Svord do lovely carbon steel knives but they need a little more care
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The Victory factory is just around the corner from the NZFN office, off Lunn Ave, Miah.
Pop in with cash and you can get a very nice knife for a great price.
I asked for carbon steel and the ladies eventually found a couple. Bonus.

As for Svord, Telecaster, i think the key is knowing how to sharpen a 'convex' blade. The likes of Steps and others on here obviously do, but it's a completely different technique to a standard edge which is simple to sharpen on a Spyderco etc. I can't get the hang of it the convex, unfortunately.
I loved the concept of a Svord, locally made by hand etc, but wouldn't recommend it to someone who isn't an expert in sharpening different edge types, or able to learn.
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So good to watch an expert fish knife-man in action.
Yes, noted the constant cleaning of table and knife👍
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I think the video in this section provide a good information on filleting the fish. 
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Just to go a step further, treating your kingfish similar to Tuna.

There are 2 things that will make your Kings taste better, bleeding and FULL Ikijime

1st Step is iki spike at 45 degree 



2. Cut just under the gill plate and bleed the fish out, put in a tub to bleed out not all over your clean boat. I dont like using a bat Iki is 100% assured dead fish.
3. Thread wire or 200-300lb mono up the spine to kill off all residual nerve action. Note: there is one more process that the first video didnt show and also where to cut to bleed the fish, its a cut to the tail which paralyzes the fish, but some people put the wire up the tail instead as seen here:


4. On salt ice immediately
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Didn't realise you were so clued up on this FF.  I don't do the whole thing down the spine trick. Is it as easy as it looks in the video or does it take a little practice? In my world, bleeding and on ice are pretty important and have never had bad kingfish. What am I missing out on? 

Do you use livebaits or jigs? On the Manukau we mostly livebait but I know some who do really well on jigs.

where have you been catching them?


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Why kill off residual (if there is any actually there) "nerve action"
 It is my understanding that its not a never action thing but rather  uncontrolled muscle memory thing.
Like when change gear in a car you dont actually think about doing it or even rem doing it  or turning the pedals when riding a bike.

 My thought is to bleed correctly/ well cut the throat, while the heart is still pumping, and pump as much blood out before the heart stops, then  gut/drain if any left.
 
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Interesting thread, obviously many ways to “skin a cat”.

In my experience a bat to the head is the easiest and quickest way of killing kingfish, I have a purpose built bat for doing just that! I have tried to Iki them but can’t seem to get it right.

I fillet king fish the same as a snapper and always take the fillet off over the ribs so I don’t have to gut them.

Old mate in the video obviously knows what he is doing though. My tip for king fish is to use an old towel to lie them on as the usually don’t fit on my chopping boards and they slide around all over the stainless bench but a towel stops all that.

If your really knew to catching kingfish and want it smoked but don’t have a smoker, another option is to kill them and put them on ice, then when you get home put them in a black sack and then chuck them into the freezer whole, guts, blood and all.

Then ring Marcsic Brothers in Glen Innes and find out what day they are smoking fish and drop it in the day before and get them to smoke it for ya, this method works great!! ;) you can leave the whole frozen fish until your ready to drop it off!
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Thank you for the topic and the video. Really helpful
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Thanks, I found some new tips for cooking fish in this thread.

Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Not my work but certainly better than my efforts, here's a link to a great post by The cook in The Kitchen forum:

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And I really liked the pictures in this thread. Thanks too :)
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