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Stellamoon...As I said in my earlier post, I will post the Knot Konishi san showed Luke and me after the New Year when I get time to make a video...........(That sounds pretty clear to me)...............Stinkbait......I dont think that is quite the right way to go about your request........Nobody owes anybody anything on here........This is a place to share(if you wish too) ...not demand............at the end of the day its up to anesh if he wishes to share this knot and of course it would be great to know,now  wouldnt it....lets hope he feels like doing it!Wink 
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So what the big knot you can't tell us????????

Like what i said to start with I just wait and see, but it has gone right off the topic to I can catch a bigger fish then you and my brands better then yours.
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Seen swordfish , blue marlin , stripies and kings over 37kgs landed landed on uni knots , when you find a king that is gunna pull for 4 hours and weigh over 400lbs let me know . This is a joke , hope you all got tissues for Christmas cause there's gunna be a mega mess after all this ****ing on about who's knots better .
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For a while here (Oman) we were using heavy leaders..to 300lb or something up around 1.85mm. Many here still use a 3 turn clinch knot or the Uni. The only thing we found with the Uni is that it sometimes flattens on the swivel and some people believe lead to failure..we then started to put it though the swivel twice but a lot depends on the size of the swivel ring hence we used the biggest NTs...the vast majority of break offs we have here are in the main line, nothing to do with the knot.
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Originally posted by fishmad1 fishmad1 wrote:

For a while here (Oman) we were using heavy leaders..to 300lb or something up around 1.85mm. Many here still use a 3 turn clinch knot or the Uni. The only thing we found with the Uni is that it sometimes flattens on the swivel and some people believe lead to failure..we then started to put it though the swivel twice but a lot depends on the size of the swivel ring hence we used the biggest NTs...the vast majority of break offs we have here are in the main line, nothing to do with the knot.
interesting campbell and fish mad.....it gets hard to tie a uni in the bigger weight lines too....IMHO....form the knot up the line and make sure its tidy.....then spit on it and line and slowly pull up.
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Oh this thread is gold, very entertainingConfused


In our camp we use the uni, tube knot (uni then reversed down its self) and the SanDiego Jam knot, all these knots work well with no failures, to be honest we have gone away from the uni as the tube knot lays up neater on line over 80lb. My crew tests a lot of knots and have found the San Diego one of the strongest knots and we have also found by putting the line though the eye twice before tying a uni or tube knot it weakens the knot (tests done on electronic scales), its more about the friction of the two lines rubbing over each other and the width at the base of the knot that weakens the knot.

As Ginga says the crimp may be the easiest and strongest and most likely the least used and over looked (maybe because its not as "flash" looking or maybe no one has come out with a pair of gold plated aircraft grade alloy surgical S/S trendy crimpers signed by some Asian dude that these new modern fisherman seems to like using these days).

Topwater we have caught many fish over 40/50kgs and even one estimated at over 100kgs that was lost boat side due to a broken rod (after a 3hr fight) all using the uni, tube or San Diego Jam knots.

Live and dead baiting we have caught many marlin up to and well over 200kgs using these knots on hooks and swivels with no failures.  Crimping hooks we have caught Tuna to over 400kgs on 130lb fluro with the simple crimp to the hook. (these are just examples how well these connections hold under more drag pressure more than most could hang onto on a topwater rod).

I feel a lot of failures acure mainly due to connections not being check and retied. Casting, missed bites and hook tangles all sure play havoc on gear.

A past catch that I was part of that makes me think about pushing connections and gear to the limit is this stunning topwater catch by JoshW (photo below), soft bait rod and reel, 50lb leader and (uni knot or Tube knot not 100% on which one) to the cheap $20 stickbait, over an hour fight, jumps, huge surface runs and times where the fish hung down deep and took us a long way out to sea, but a carefully tied simple knot held tight.


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Brilliant Tony....love your work!
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Hmm you could be onto something there , gold plated crimpers endorsed by jackie chan with limited edition bejizzled handles .
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Originally posted by the angler the angler wrote:

Hmm you could be onto something there , gold plated crimpers endorsed by jackie chan with limited edition bejizzled handles .
Great idea Angler - off to the patent office now.
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Originally posted by the angler the angler wrote:

Hmm you could be onto something there , gold plated crimpers endorsed by jackie chan with limited edition bejizzled handles .

Mike just about bust a rib. Great to see a bit of humour amongst the knot testosterone.
I understand the significance of some of the overseas anglers who field test their brands here in NZ but to me the real story is US the kiwi angler who has adapted & invested in numerous new & innovative angling methods.
Is it possible that we might one day tell the field testers "hey try this" & have them go back home n tell all their mates how it's done in NZ???
Just a thought!!
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Originally posted by Stellamoon Stellamoon wrote:

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I hate pics like that, makes it hard to believe the size of the fish or photo shop has been given a nudge.
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Originally posted by TOSF TOSF wrote:

In our camp we use the uni, tube knot (uni then reversed down its self) and the SanDiego Jam knot, all these knots work well with no failures, to be honest we have gone away from the uni as the tube knot lays up neater on line over 80lb. My crew tests a lot of knots and have found the San Diego one of the strongest knots and we have also found by putting the line though the eye twice before tying a uni or tube knot it weakens the knot (tests done on electronic scales), its more about the friction of the two lines rubbing over each other and the width at the base of the knot that weakens the knot.




How many wraps would you make when tying the sandiego on say 100lb mono/floro?  I've used it softbaiting on 15lb but then went back to a loop knot. 

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5 times on heavier line say over 100lb, 6 or 7 on ligher lines.
Make sure you get the loops formed up well and tight before pulling up nice and tight it then becomes a lot neater and stronger. Its always nice to have the hook or swivel attached to something when pulling up tight and some spit for lube.
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"I hate pics like that, makes it hard to believe the size of the fish or photo shop has been given a nudge."

Cbro - Probably just the wide angle lens on the GoPro/DSLR, when peoples knees are bigger than their torso there is usually some forced perspective. Not worth being found out using photoshop.
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Cheers mate.  Just out of interest what knots are you using to connect leader to main. 

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(K)Not my area of expertise which is why I'm doing my research...

Currently Uni to swivel, but pretty much uni for everything, bars!ardised versions of the slim beauty and Rapala knot finished with a Uni as well.

Someone smarter and more experienced than me (maybe Kezza?) posted it a few years back and just started doing it.
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well...after all this...we still never got stellamoons knot.........come in anesh...over Big smile
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I'm still waiting for the name of this knot to because i was told how im not doing anything right and this knot was going to save all our souls and catch 40kg plus kingfish because we all catch rats with the knots we use at the mo. I think it be good a video of you anesh tying it .
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Yep ive landed a 38-40 on jig with a uni. Much more pressure than topwater. I think sometimes we complicate things to much. I think the curry comment could be left out kingislayer. Rod maker politics should be done by pm. Or just meet face to face and get the gloves out!. Im not a big fan of racest comments. Its only a knot for gods sake!!.
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Anybody tried using the Jansik knot , really simple to tie and popular with the Gt popping guys ?
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