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    Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 11:55am
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Hi team

Going to get into the Game this season and hope target Stripeys. My question is what trace length from swivel to lure is recommended? I don't know why but I just can't seem to find any answers.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Check out pakula between the lines, you will find what you need plus a lot more.

Have you considered stopping now before you get hooked. .
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Originally posted by RockyWannabe RockyWannabe wrote:

Hi team

Going to get into the Game this season and hope target Stripeys. My question is what trace length from swivel to lure is recommended? I don't know why but I just can't seem to find any answers.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers


I run approx 2 -2.5m trace length plus windon. Rather than having to trace a fish with a longer trace and having to be careful where you put the trace.
I find when the swivel is at the rod tip the fish is pretty much within gaff range and even if you have to grab the trace you may only have to pull a meter to get your gaff shot.
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Thanks, yknot. I will check Pakula out! And no, I will not be turning back! Thanks for your advice.

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Thanks Tzer

I was having the same thought. 2.5m seems like a manageable length.

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I weigh a few gamefish every year but I'm really not a gamefisher myself. I see a lot more short leaders nowadays for those that use  swivels. Personally the thought of that big tail whacking my mainline would worry me so I would want 3m, just in case I ever hook up on something decent, which is unlikely Big smile
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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

I weigh a few gamefish every year but I'm really not a gamefisher myself. I see a lot more short leaders nowadays for those that use  swivels. Personally the thought of that big tail whacking my mainline would worry me so I would want 3m, just in case I ever hook up on something decent, which is unlikely Big smile


Smudge if your running full length windons theres no need for long lure trace as windon act as extra length to trace, running a double line is different story
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Read up on the IGFA rules:-
The double line on all classes of tackle over 20 lb (10 kg) shall be
limited to 30 feet (9.14 meters). The combined length of the double line
and leader shall not exceed 40 feet (12.19 meters).

I use a 300lb braid wind-on leader plus a 300lb bite leader.
The bite leader from the swivel on the leader at the crimped loop to bend of rearmost hook is my arm span (about 1.7 m). As I make all the rigs, the arm span stays the same and therefore don't need to measure - a few centimetres longer won't make any difference. Other angler's bite leaders might be a bit longer but as long as the total allowed length is legal. 1.7M works for us.

The total from mainline double to hook bend is less than the max of 12 (to avoid stretch).

Just to simplify (or confuse!), I also run hollow braid as my mainline using a reverse-latch needle to make a spliced loop instead of a double. The spliced loop has the line inserted inside itself and that makes a hidden double. The braid wind-on had spliced loops at either end making a very smooth transition through the guides and the braid leader is easy to trace without taking wraps using cheap gloves from Bunnings (Showa Extra Grip).
Having looped main and wind-on makes for a very strong, crimp-free set-up with only the bite leader having crimps. I have made braid bite leaders too (swivel - braid then loop through hook's eye) and ran it ok but it might be a step too far. 
Hope you can make sense of all of this.

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I was looking forward to chiming in here. But really you have all answers you need above from Tzer, FishB8 and Smudge,  short is fine. Most of damage too trace seldom more than a foot up. If planning to tail wrap a few you might want to go bit longer but no more than few meters especially if have wind on as well. If use a windon (generally 150 to 200 lb) can run a short meter and half  bite leader.
 If looking at catching big blue on 80wides 37 kg mainline, we run 300 to 400 wind ons with silmilar trace. That is different though to your stripeys. Could still take nice blue on 300lb windon and similar trace comfortably. And  also with a 200 lb wind on and 300 lb trace more than probably… and they are caught on lighter.
 Strong knots and connections are most important plus line capacity.
Having said that I’m old slow, like to take my time to clear other rods out and put gimbal on and often fish solo. Have caught marlin on 400 meters of finer diameter 24 kg on a TLD 25. That one was no problem, one we got this year would have spooled that.
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