Yeah Joker for the average guy it doesnt mean much as most boat with a bit of chine an stability are fine.

But in the case of my Mrs Ive had to stick with Ribs for a while due to stability at rest.

This thing would definitely be as stable a Cat, plus as you can see it tears up chop all the way home. So I think it would sell well here. A small 550 Hard Top version would make the ultimate inshore/offshore mini weapon for those that need ultra stable at rest boats.

I do like surtees and more so extreme, extremes EXTREME entry and deadrise, plus the flattened chine/gull wing alone with a flooding ballast like Surtees, along with being the leader in plate thickness and having won so many awards in the last 4 years, ie the 8mm hull in the 795 Centre Cab with enclosed Helm walk around is just an Epic boat and will go down as a classic. But imagine if they reversed that chine 30 degrees. It doesnt need it, but man you wouldnt need a flooding ballast ever, although having one doesnt hurt, but takes up room for those who want an inboard and say 1000 ltr diesel tank (extreme range).

Anyway, they are cheaper than BlackDog Cats and perform just as good, possibly better and dont cost the earth for something sparce. Dont get me Wrong I love BDC, but it is what it is.

Rozboon wrote: I bet they ride like one too. If you look at most modern pontoon boats

Watch the video of one chewing up the surf in maroochy? Makes me want my teeth and discs in my back replaced by NZ aly shallow deadrise pontoon boats :-) . Only pontoon boat id own would be osprey due to the extreme sharp entry and deadrise, but stable at rest due to the gull win shape of the D shaped pontoons.

Nah these things are supposedly soft riding, more like a Cat that traps the air effect. The physics is quite different, hence you dont lose teeth like a 16deg dead rise pontoon back breaker.

I think FC just followed the basics set by prior boats and mass produced a cheap tinny, although not so cheap to be fair.

Extreme have other things going for their ride, like the entry and etreme deadrise, much thicker plate, and of course a flooding ballast should that all not be enough.

I think Extreme have the edge in ally plate boats in NZ. In Aus there are quite a few but companies like Genesys make good hulls. Of course they sell barcrishers/surtees, but they are slightly lighhter on the plate ally used.

Most pontoons these days are around the same as that boat (17 deg at transom). Have you been out on a modern pontoon?