On a budget whats difference in quailty reels?

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Titanium
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This is a question we, and think many newbies, and those on budgets often ask themselves....

We have been using lower mid range $120 to%180 bait runner type reels ..okuma shimano OC  4000 /6000 as our go tos...for general  straylining soft bait.
For the 4000s okuma 6/10kg and extreme.. which is ok...the blue predecessor to the nano matrix... very nice.. and a couple nano matrix also very nice.
 So basically not elcheapo stuff but not top of the line either.
 Putting a little more money into a rod makes a difference when casting and loading on a big fish...
But is it better to put the money into a rod?.. upgrade from exteme to nano matrix or the reel?

One of the okumas is getting a bit worn.. boat show..and a thunnus 4000 sitting at $269... Txt to the 'accountant'  and a "yes"

So replaced the 4000 oc on the nano matrix.. same braid ( reversed wound off the OC) .. then out on monday for a fish.
Yep far smoother turning, but that doesnt justify the extra $100...then flick soft baits into wash...crap missed the wash, landed right up on the rocks... more careful next flick..opps again.
Later drifting , a quick back hand flick up past the bows....took ages to land way in the distance. I could just get that sort of distance on a full cast.
 M8 who soft baits a lot commented on the distance.
 Not only that but the direction line was consistently spot on most of the time, except when seeing how far could get it.  This needs a little practice.

So was it worth the extra $100?

 Not for the smoothness?, that doesnt catch fish.

For the casting?, hell yeah, being able to accurately drop hooks into a wash at greater distance, and into work ups, shallow and deep water drifts, less disturbance of fish,  more ground covered .. MORE FISH
 For the easy of distance even on a back hand flick. the increased accuracy because of less effort for the distance.

Son who is right into S baiting .. loves casting more I think...he came home from work yesterday, told/ warned  him about the distance. Took the rod  down the back yard, did a toss, to fall sort of the gardens in front of the fence. If it was not for the thick trees at the rear of the garden , the soft bait would have gone clean over the fence.
 He wants one for his nano matrix now.
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Sometimes it's well worth the extra $$ to go to the better model, sometimes not so much. As you say, sometimes you're paying for a little more smoothness in cranking and not much else, other times you're getting significant functional differences.

I did a back-to-back review between the 8000OC and 8000D on my Facebook page a while ago - https://www.facebook.com/reelguts/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1554919904815379

I started that page to give fishos a look into what's actually going on inside reels and what their dollars are buying them, is it just a marketing term and a brand or are you actually getting an improved product?

Conclusion was that the 8000D is absolutely worth the extra $50, but the final conclusion was that the Thunnus is the one to go for. At $269 that's a great price for the Thunnus, the Ci4 rotor is key as the D/OC rotor (identical) flexes too much at more than ~6kg drag in the 8000 size. Off the top of my head the Thunnus gets the hardened spool lip as well, which may also be smoother = longer casts? Quite a few subtle little changes in the Thunnus, important ones are the spool bearing, line roller bearing, "Paladin" gears and the obvious aforementioned material change.

In some other reels... yes and no. Read Alan Hawk on Shimano Saragosa SW vs Spheros SW as a good example.
Daiwa BG is a fantastic "budget" reel, as is the Okuma Azores.
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