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i found the tunaLOL check this vid out. absolutely wicked

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shame those memories are from a distant past around our waters nowCry
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wow that is awesome!!!!!!
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I remember seeing a bustup like that with yellow sickles flying 30 minutes after I started my first game fishing trip from the Waihau Bay ramp. Around 1988/9 I guess. Great memories of our under-gunned reels getting smoked by serious fish. 
What really bugs me about looking at film like this is that our bureaucrats can kill innovation, destroy self initiative, spend ludicrous amounts beating the poor old recreational fishing sector into submission, but they won't lift a finger to stop the commercial fishers from destroying a fish stock unless extinction is imminent and they might be exposed as the tool of the commercial fishing companies that they often appear to be. 
It sickens me to think how a once fabulous recreational fishery has been totally destroyed and no one can be held accountable for it. A while back I wrote to the Minister of fisheries querying a public statement they made about the state of the Pacific Yellowfin stock. The response was something along the lines that they don't see any issue with the current YFT stocks in the South Pacific and the current level of commercial take. I asked how that fits with the fact that from a recreational point of view YFT are effectively extinct in NZ waters. They didn't respond to that bit!! We went from abundance to virtual extinction in NZ waters in ~20 years of commercial rape. It is gutting that my son will never see stuff like is shown in that video, and that the next NZ YFT I catch will probably be my last, unless of course I caught my last one in 2005 when we last ran into a patch of them. I haven't seen one in the water since! 
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sickening aint it Dave?......pulling up next to a meatball like that and seeing it with your own eyes is something every game fisho needs to witness....sadly it just aint gunna happen for most....I'm cherishing the memories I have of 3-4 seasons in a row just a stones throw off the Whakatane River Mouth and driving past the "small" meatballs to get the the really big baskets just a few 100ms away....I've seen a 'few' things during my career as camera op for Matt including packs of striped marlin up to no good, hordes of giant bluefin feeding just inches from the transom, absolutely massive black marlin doing what they do best but they all take a back seat to that meatballing shizzle!!

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I agree with all said and yes Tagit is right on the money with "and they might be exposed as the tool of the commercial fishing companies that they often appear to be." How long will it be before we are discussing/lamenting the demise of albacore or skipjack? Look at SBFT fishery - raped until almost extinct - certainly to an uneconomic level for comm fishing - wait for this to be opened up wholesale again and watch the cycle repeat. Lets not ignore the humble kawhai either...
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Demise, is an understatement, really sad.......
I love Marlin fishing for its challanges, and tuna for the fun of it.
 
Still like the sound of a tuna on its first run.... and still live in hope of there return.
 
The best years for meatballing were the late ninties as far as Iam aware, and not all seasons were the same, there was a gap of 4 or 5 years inbetween meatball seasons.
 
the one good thing about yft is they can recover quite fast if allowed, and sometimes they dont breed if the conditions dont suite.
 
So maybe........
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Originally posted by Tagit Tagit wrote:

It sickens me to think how a once fabulous recreational fishery has been totally destroyed and no one can be held accountable for it. A while back I wrote to the Minister of fisheries querying a public statement they made about the state of the Pacific Yellowfin stock. The response was something along the lines that they don't see any issue with the current YFT stocks in the South Pacific and the current level of commercial take. I asked how that fits with the fact that from a recreational point of view YFT are effectively extinct in NZ waters. They didn't respond to that bit!! We went from abundance to virtual extinction in NZ waters in ~20 years of commercial rape. It is gutting that my son will never see stuff like is shown in that video, and that the next NZ YFT I catch will probably be my last, unless of course I caught my last one in 2005 when we last ran into a patch of them. I haven't seen one in the water since! 
It's even more ironic that in the last two years of the Minister's address to the NZ Sport fish council's AGM HE has raised the issue of declining Yellowfin. Whilst nothing had been said about the issue by the delegates or NZSFC management up to that point. 
 Last year I pointed out to him that economies of the towns dotted along the North Island East coast are being seriously impacted by the lack of yellowfin in our waters. And pointed out the fact that in the previous 2 years of the Whakatane Tuna tournament, the number of yellowfin caught and weighed at that tournament could be counted on one hand. His response was to turn to John Holdsworth and ask "do we have thta data" and John said yes you do.
My question to the minister, was what additional tools do they have to put pressure on the central pacific fishers to reduce their catch. His response was that he would get back to us, I've still not seen a response.
 
As far as the comment about the dissapperance of SBFT and "let's not forget Kahawai". PLease don't take this personally, but it's exactly that noise from the Rec fishing sector that confuses the ministry about what we really want. Let's not forget that anybody targetting SBFT can still catch as many as they want. It's just that where they live is very remote. Sure they're incdecline and there's lower numbers than ever before. But compared to Yellowfin they shouldn't be at the top of our list.
 
As far as Kahawai are concerned, we always could and still can catch more than we want. It some places they're still regarded as a pestilent by catch to what we really want.
 
And yet our representative organisations (NZSFC and Rec fishing council among others) continue to argue about whether we need an overarching body and who has the biggest dick! These people are charged with the responsibility to represent us so we need to tell them what we really want.
 
It's time we started putting heavy pressure on these organisations and the government to stop farting around with beraucratic issue and focus on what's REALLY wrong.
 
Yellowfin would be a great place to start...... Do I hear any Amen's?
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sup dudes any1 headin out wide of poor knights dis weekend. Cheers.

 
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Thinking of trying off Oceans this WE - if no good may try Kumara patch
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Hopefully having a run on Sunday - location TBA...
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me too turtle....going to try and win my 10 year old son that quad bike in the club....are the fish still off oceans
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Not sure TM - waiting on some intel but look like waters cooled. Should therefore be some temp breaks which is better as the constant temp thing was speading stuff out I think?
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Amen to that.
 
Piss all Yellowfin at Waihau any more.
 
I am behind that all the way.
 
 
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Just talked to my dad who was helping a mate take a boat up to Tutes from Marsden cove today. Same area off Oceans/Chicks holding bait today but blue water has moved offshore a bit. Green and dirty at 80m, reckons it was ok at 110-120. Heaps of kelp/weed rafts out there.
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Out from TOOTS today - north tp 130m north of Knights - headwind and nothing doing.
 
Ran down back of Knights to 95m off Oceans - 12 skippies - nothing showing.
 
Bashed back to Toots
 
Great day thanks Bailey and Steve -
 
Heard 2 fish caught today - both up North.
 
Looking forward to Small boats next week - hopefully good Weather.
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Went out Yesterday only did 70 nautical miles. Went out to the pinnicles then North to the "hot spot" last year off Wananaki, then straight out to 170m then South on this line. Turned in and cut back though Lochland (no or maybe a few, kingfish on sounder so didn't stop). Best water temp and colour I found was off the South end in 170. Best bait was as the temperature started to drop about 140m. A few nice flying fish here. Managed only 2 skippies out of the same school all day. I didn't see another boat all day. I think eveybody has given up. RT was dead. Full moon :(
I'll hopefully have another crack at the end of the week.
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