shaneg wrote: Agree with Muppet. Especially on conservation of inshore species. I endorsed ITQ as a masters thesis many years ago when we’re bringing it in Was best practise at time and still works in other places who adopted sametime or earlier. In hindsight is highly dependent on compliance and enforcement and also accurate present fish numbers and forecasting ( requires constant investment). In our case the economic theory and common sense getting too far ahead of science or actually the interest group ( commercial fishing companies) industry capturing the new system (The property rights (QUOTA) we allocated) and then making heavily influenced systematic poor decisions around resource. Weird for a country with supposedly has low corruption elsewhere. But the system appears to have been captured by short term profit horizons and commercial interests. Very deplorable and sad.
Would like to think we could influence yft stocks as well but sadly not. But should do what we can. It seems some quite poor economies in Sth America can manage their fish stocks better which is sad indictment on how par we on in terms of best intentions versus execution. And we are at threat in terms of other eastern based fishing fleets with a plunder mentality. |
the croc wrote: OK, exactly what fisheries are we talking about then? There are a 20-40 stock reviews each year, so hundreds over the last decade, and plenty of those with a recreational component. Which of those had howls and threats of going to court? More than one? I hear these sort of claims all the time and yet no one backs them up with any examples. |
Alan L wrote: Terakihi are under legal challenge currently. Nash is in the dock for failing to follow prescribed protocol to preserve/restore species. Alan
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Muppet wrote: Stocks we catch in numbers. |
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Muppet wrote: Croc with all due respect you know exactly what I mean. That the vast majority of fish landed in NZ are by the commercial sector of species we generally don't go near. So in my humble opinion that is that I have no interest in having a say about those stocks as I don't know anything about them. Manage away... But I do care about my local waters and the potential for looking after and improving them from in my experience are highly productive even though you have stated otherwise. So turns out my calculations are much better than yours. |
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Alan L wrote:
I asked Legasea about that. Their answer was they wanted to direct their resources towards a holistic fishery approach - ie concentrate on the policy matters that affect these things. Rather than challenge individual decisions on a 'whack a mole' basis. Which does make some sense (to me at least). Alan |
Alan L wrote:
I asked Legasea about that. Their answer was they wanted to direct their resources towards a holistic fishery approach - ie concentrate on the policy matters that affect these things. Rather than challenge individual decisions on a 'whack a mole' basis. Which does make some sense (to me at least). Alan |
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