Sanchez wrote: My friend has got more interested in this recently to finish off a count and measure app with me based on a single photo. This for rec anglers willing to contribute to improving data. He reckons if the will is there a reasonable commercial system could be developed now. It will take a few tweaks to get the bugs out but if your development road map isn't trying to solve every problem at once you'll have a better system in the long run. This is deep nerd stuff. Google are also developing some interesting AI tech called Tidal that im sure you are aware of croc. (edit. the first Tidal Link i provided was behind a Financial Times paywall - this is not ) |
pjc wrote: Lets see where this goes?? Here goes Paul, know doubt though I will be accused of putting the knife at every opportunity I get Latest news Reccs want ban on scallop dredges, really?? Only those who are NZSFC members or attended AGM as there has been no public submission. This
is of course only a policy that affects affiliated members to the NZSFC
and even then is not enforceable. Until MPI legislate to make this law
its really just business as usual. The policy is a bit
hypocritical in that they want to see a ban on all trawling & dredging
yet this policy allows for dredging where it is not practical to dive.
Sort of wanting to have you cake and eat it as well. Shark Finning Was the video recorded in NZ no proof and no action from DOC or MPI More
Legasea propaganda B/S without verifying the facts much like the post
about the Sanford's trawler. Yet another grainy unclear photo/video,
other than showing what does appear to be a GW nothing else is
identifiable in the video so could have been taken anywhere in the
world. Legasea yet again your credibility in in question. Recue Fish 12k signed yet reported there is 80 to 90k legasea supporters so why has it not reached target or are the majority are those who filled in forms at shows in the hope to win a reel or shirt?? Precisely where all their support now. In these economic times no Government will buy back the quota. QMS just needs a few tweaks like land all catch and no tonnage on species but have it on total catch, maybe increase from say a 3t quota to 4t to allow for low value fish? Banning of inshore trawling yes but I would go a step further and ban areas from longliners.Example is Dec/Jan Feb longlining happens inside of Whangparoa to flat rock Kawau island.with the amount of hooks laid would equal any trawler and then in my area April to September they can operate Clevedon/kawakawa bay which holds sub 30cm snapper. Cant see the QMS being scrapped in favour of Rescue Fish or any other system, granted there maybe some flaws and perhaps 30 years on some areas could do with some tweaking, like around deemed values. Dont agree with banning trawling in the inshore fishery as this would only drive cost of fish up. Need to get Moari onboard who would have the biggest clout under the treaty of Waitangi.Local Marae have stopped cockle gathering at Umuupia beach for a further 2 yrs. Yet at present the customary permit system is being abused. Maori wont agree to have the QMS scrapped either being one of the biggest stakeholders. At the moment anyone can email MPI with results. I feel MPI met with Advocacy groups just as a token gesture not under any pressure to comply with requests. Maybe if there was only one advocacy group to represent recreational then maybe MPI may have a different approach to them because they see recreational as disjointed. We get told we are stakeholders but surely if we pay a fee we then become true stakeholders and would have a real say on inshore fisheries. While I wouldn't like to pay a fishing licence I would be open to the idea if monies raised went to a funding body that looked after recreational & contributed to recreational being involved with fisheries research rather than relying on MPI, NIWA for information but we all know monies would end up in a consolidated fund for governments to waste. Yes current law says where a bio mass is low recreational get first choice but how do we know what limits are? |
the croc wrote: Where is that from pjc? |
letsgetem wrote: Couple of points - I was disappointed in the Rescue Fish initiative by Legasea. Because, basically I see nothing fundamentally wrong with Quota Management System, except for some details that should be changed. The main thing that I see wrong, is that MPI do not always manage the Quotas to avoid serious depletion. If they did their job properly, and slashed some commercial (and/or recreational) quota, this could be overcome. I am right in favour of compulsory fee paying by recreational fishers. As long as it is to a body that has recreational fishing objectives only. Based on the Fish and Game model for fresh-water fisheries. I think this is a KEY development that would very much improve how recreational fishing interacts with government. It would be far stronger than Legasea. |
Muppet wrote: To be frank Croc most of the fish species you list as having comm cuts have nothing to do with recs. Hoki, orange roughy? How much do we catch and to be frank recs barely scratch the terakihi. Think your TACC numbers on them proved that. So why bother even quoting that info? I am pretty sure the positive fisheries out of the Gulf and BOP are not thriving on Hoki. I am not demonizing comms just pointing out a frank fact. Detangling the recs from numbers that don't involve us. |
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