Fish Addict wrote:
Would the Ministers not rely on the recommendations of Fisheries NZ? Let's face it the Ministers themselves generally have little expertise in the science related to their portfolios and as such are merely mouthpieces or puppets as the case may be for those pulling the strings. If the Ministers, or Fisheries NZ for that matter are being persuaded by other sources when setting catch limits, as in influence from the commercial sector then we are truly stuffed. |
marlinmarty wrote: Paul Not enough evidence to pursue it they where keen ...read the whole article again. |
pjc wrote: https://www.newsroom.co.nz/claim-great-whites-finned-alive-in-nz-waters?fbclid=IwAR0Alr9buxogBJTC48VKZyV-dLy4u6eedHlBlYL1VUnvabcH-xximwC-Ihw Over the last year, an average of three protected great white sharks per month were caught in Aotearoa waters – and these are just the ones that were reported. In a Newsroom exclusive, we share a video of a juvenile great white aboard a fishing boat, and a shocking claim of illegal finning. |
marlinmarty wrote: Paul Not enough evidence to pursue it they where keen ...read the whole article again. |
pjc wrote: How come Sanfords/talleys etc do not post pictures of reccs doing damage,supplying black market etc?? |
Sanchez wrote: Does anyone have a good argument against putting cameras on boats ? If so I'd like to hear it. |
pjc wrote: https://www.newsroom.co.nz/claim-great-whites-finned-alive-in-nz-waters?fbclid=IwAR0Alr9buxogBJTC48VKZyV-dLy4u6eedHlBlYL1VUnvabcH-xximwC-Ihw Over the last year, an average of three protected great white sharks per month were caught in Aotearoa waters – and these are just the ones that were reported. In a Newsroom exclusive, we share a video of a juvenile great white aboard a fishing boat, and a shocking claim of illegal finning. |
the croc wrote:
This sounds like the exact kind of tall story told by a half drunk fisherman down at the pub. The fact that this actually was a tall story told by a half drunk fisherman down at the pub should have been ringing alarm bells for any decent journalist. All the video shows is a white pointer on deck with some idiot slapping it. Nothing else. I'm not sure who the journalism student is but it seems to me like he got sucked in big time. We are led to believe that there is a sophisticated network of inshore fishers around the country connected to an international crime ring, who, on the very rare occasion they catch a white pointer, head into secluded coves in the middle of the night to offload a bag of fins to a boat that comes out to meet them. Sound like a Famous Five novel yet? These fins are then frozen or dried at some central location and then somehow make it to Hong Kong or Vietnam. Do the smugglers hide the fins in their undies or is it more sophisticated? Hidden inside stuffed kiwis? In terms of money, the skipper has to pay hush money to the crew, pay his handler onshore, pay a smuggler to get it overseas and then the handler and seller at the other end. It doesn't sound like there would be a huge much money leftover to make any of that worthwhile. Colour me skeptical but I'm amazed that this story got published. |
Sanchez wrote: Tzer I'm not interested in this shark story at all. But are you against cameras on boats ? It seems like you are and i wonder why. You seem so obsessed about this perception of anti commercial sentiment. When i dont think most people think like that at all. Most people recognise that the opportunity is clearly there to bend the rules when out of sight, and most people recognise its human nature to do that eventually. The % of reported bycatch goes up significantly when there is an observer aboard fishing boats tells you all you need to know about that. Got any thoughts about that ? I'd like to hear it. @ Rozboon - that's a pretty succinct answer. I agree, however I'd be less sure commercial fisherman's feelings would be ever be hurt if cameras were pointed at decks. None that i know anyway. No cameras are in the galley and none in the crapper, and none are recording sound. Just cameras pointed at nets on the deck, what is hauled up and what is thrown over the side. Its not anti-commercial to say this. There is a huge opportunity missed to understand the maths involved in quota management when you dont know for sure whats happening out there. more and more people want this to happen and it makes perfect sense to do it. |
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