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So according to the CEO of the comm group Fisheries Inshore NZ in this article it is going to cost the best part of $200k per boat to put cameras on them?????......

My thoughts exactly
 Cost to put 4 cameras around our home 10 yrs ago, including hard drives,  high end software was about $1200.. not including a day lifting roof panels to hard wire power cables etc.

 These days battery technology and solar panels, wireless far more reliable and cheaper...and so is the hardware and cameras... and save on installing/ routing wires..

 Cameras suitable for conditions with HD resolutions.. at a guess be about $2500 each... FULL RETAIL including battery and panels and brackets..
 Hardware to record  1 K tops...

  With basic bulk buying for a fleet.. or several fleets costs then drop dramaticly further...

 Now what Really gets up my nose is the reporter.. the media... that is a high number 200K.. way higher than what the ave person would think
 " hang on a minute, thats high, maybe a further story here..."
 But nope media cant think well enough to actually follow up something that looks a little fishy...
 Just to sit at their desk, bit googling , pricing, few emails presto...
 Bottom line.. and hate to say this..." fake news"

 No different to the report who made a big issue of some homeless people who couldn't get a house... little bit background thru the tenancy records showed numerous evictions, including housing corp, for smashed walls, windows, not paying rent.....
  "Fake news"
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LegaSea says to Nashie - stand firm on the camera issue......

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While the camera issue is firmly in the media,what about the new nets we once heard about. Havent heard about the new nets for a while.
Are they now in full use with the majority using them.?

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cirrus  The PSH cod ends are being used on some boats under special permit.  There needs to be changes to the fishing regulations around mesh sizes etc to allow them for general use. The question raised is the new system better for the fish than the existing nets.  The industry have run trials and found that there are more under size fish landed in the PSH nets, but in the inshore fishery they are mostly alive so can be released in reasonable condition. 

As discussed on these pages at times there may be an issue with catching fish at depth and the effects of barotrauma. Release mortality varies by species. NIWA was contracted to do some independent work but I have not seen a final report.  Any regulation change would have to include public consultation.  Hopefully the new Ministry will work through their backlog after they are established in 1 April.


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Thanks John. Interesting. So they are not the nets they thought they would be. Thought someone must be still using the old nets as i saw last week a whole bin of very small gurnard.for sale at 
$4.95.Picked several up and they easily fitted into the palm of my hand. All the gurnard were this size..
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We had someone post on our FB page a while back saying that the system had some issues, one being when they were sorting the fish on the back of the boat in the shallow water containment area, it had a destabilising effect on the boat making it dangerous in some conditions and unsuitable on some sized vessels. The fish had to be sorted in the containment area to try and ensure a decent chance at survival upon release. It certainly doesn't seem to enjoy widespread use across industry. Hopefully they will be able to develop it further so it becomes effective and economical for all trawlers to use.   
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LSCB,a few of us said that from the start,lifting a water laden net onboard in a sea way would cause stability issues,why not just change the cod end so all snapper under 30cm can be released,equal size!
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Yeah looks like you were right.Will be interesting to see a final report on overall mortality. This stuff has just got to change.
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Minister Nash has released his decision on Rock Lobster management changes for 1 April
 
NZSFC and Legasea media release here
 

LegaSea and the New Zealand Sport Fishing Council welcome the decision by the Minister of Fisheries Stuart Nash to reduce the allowable catch for crayfish in the Hauraki Gulf and Bay of Plenty, known as the CRA 2 region.

The Minister has set the new limits for commercial fishing at 80 tonnes per year, set aside a recreational allowance of 34 tonnes and an allowance for Maori customary fishing at 16.5 tonnes.

Spokesman Richard Baker cautiously welcomes the decision, which comes after stark evidence of the collapse of the fishery. The 2017 stock assessment puts the stock at an historic low, with only 5% of male and 18% of the female population in the water now compared to the estimated size of the unfished crayfish population, “and that should be ringing alarm bells in Wellington.”

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If you are on the LegaSea database you will be receiving an email update that includes the latest FishCare video    and much more.
 
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True Kiwis lend a hand
 
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Our Tarakihi campaign is in full swing - a stock assessment revealed we're down to about 17% of the original unfitted biomass off the east coast (of both islands). Nash will have to make a decision on how to go about rebuilding the fishery - if he has enough of the public behind him, he is more likely to make a conservative decision and cut TACC by 60% or more.  If you want to sign the petition, go to:
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Hey, that link doesn't appear to work. You need to remove the extra http :D
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Thanks to everyone who supported the call for the rebuild of New Zealand's east coast tarakihi stocks and decisive action from the Minister Stuat Nash. Over 9000 people signed LegaSea's online petition, the largest responce to date.
 
The decision was made last week. Here is a media realse from LegaSea.
 
Minister fails New Zealand’s fishery
The recreational advocacy group LegaSea is bitterly disappointed the Minister of Fisheries has
deferred making decisive cuts to commercial catches of tarakihi on New Zealand’s east coast for at least another year. In October Stuart Nash will apply a 20% cut to the commercial catch, while
LegaSea has been campaigning for a 65% reduction.
LegaSea spokesperson Scott Macindoe says the decision is a blow for the fishery as the 20% will be negated in some areas by the fishing industry’s ability to carry forward 10% of uncaught catch from the previous year. There are fears that commercial interests will succeed in keeping the stock low to maintain jobs in an unproductive fishery.
“It’s a body blow for one of New Zealand’s best loved fish. The fishery has been on the downward slide for 30 years. It is disappointing that Stuart Nash has decided on a 20% cut this year and only signaled further cuts in 2019, unless industry can deliver a “plan to rebuild the stock within 10 years.” It is the Minister’s job to rebuild depleted stocks.”
The decision highlights weaknesses in the Quota Management System and the ability of corporate commercial interests to influence decisions, buying themselves more time to generate their own science to better reflect their views.
LegaSea says a 65% cut is the minimum required to meet the Ministry’s own Harvest Strategy Guidelines. The latest stock assessment shows that the tarakihi fisheries on the east coast are in a steady decline and have been since 1990. Currently, the stock is only 17% of the unfished level, below the “soft limit” so the Minister is obliged to implement a time-bound recovery plan.
From 1 October the allowances for recreational fishers will be reduced from 652 tonnes to 221 tonnes. This represents a 66% cut, which reflects the decline in recreational catch based on current harvest estimates in these depleted fisheries. Moreover, Fisheries New Zealand is consulting on daily bag limit reductions for recreational fishers which will reduce the public catch further.
As part of a combined recreational fishing submission to the Ministry in July, the joint parties highlighted the best available science shows that a 65% cut in commercial catch for ten years was required to reach the rebuild target with reasonable certainty.
“Given the depleted state of the tarakihi fishery the major cut needed to be made in 2018, to give a boost to the stock for the first time in 28 years. Instead, we’re looking at 20% or less, and that simply won’t be enough.”
“This is the first real test of the new Minister’s mettle for a nationwide favourite and unfortunately it would appear he has blinked. Too many New Zealand fisheries are collapsing. Tarakihi will join crayfish, hapuku and John dory on the “gone but not forgotten” list if we continue to ignore the clear signs of depletion. Unfortunately, it would seem the commercial imperative has overpowered the long-term sustainable future of our fisheries yet again.”
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I put a summary in another thread. This was possibly the best of the shared fisheries decisions Nash made when compared with how bad the other ones were. The others like John Dory and Flatfish were just a complete joke and a very obvious slap in the face. This TAR decision isn't right either, but IF we end up with at least the total 55% cut Nash has promoted by next year it will be possibly the biggest finfish win for rec angling so far. 

What never gets discussed is that the TAR rec catch has crashed by over 60% even with an increasing number of anglers, but that is not reason to do anything. The only reason to do anything is if the stock is collapsed or comm catches are declining. Why is it that an assessment saying that rec catch levels have crashed is not enough to trigger some action? 

I guess now we wait for daily catch limit reviews so that once again the rec community who have been unable to catch their quota in this commercially depleted fishery can take responsibility for rebuilding it. Just like every other commercially over fished shared fishery. Seems that it doesn't matter what government we have, there is just way too much 'political' connection to the commercial sector. Just need to read Nash's statements. They are so tied to the comms that they don't even see for themselves how bad that stuff reads to any rec fisherman. "I have asked the industry", "I am waiting for industry feedback" type comments everywhere. Where are the "I am waiting for feedback from the recreational community" statements? Don't exist because they don't think that way until it is time to cast votes.!
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Good stuff above liked both. Keep up the great work. 

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Hi gents. Anyone have any thoughts on what the daily recreational limit for crays might get dropped to in October? I see the recreational tonnage allowance is dropping from 140 down to 34 tonne....... (BOP/hauraki gulf)
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I doubt they actually need to drop the daily allowance to stay under the limit because they are so rare now. Having said that, I expect that it will get dropped to 3 or 4.
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Chewb  LegaSea and NZ Sport Fishing Council have attended the crayfish stakeholder meetings with commercial and customary fishers. There is a discussion document due out in October on BOP/HG bag limits.  Not 100% sure what Fisheries NZ will propose but LegaSea is supporting a proposal to voluntarily reduce the cray bag limit this summer in BOP/HG to 3 per person along with NZ Underwater Association.

The regulations won't be changed until next year. 
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Beat me to it Tagit.
Agree the current catch is low.
The discussions have been about conserving some crays as the stock rebuilds.
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