Sea Nymph Gullwing owners help please

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    Posted: 13 May 2011 at 8:36pm
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My Gullwing is in at the fibreglass workshop getting a new floor and also some other small repairs... one of them is the ugly hole someone put in the motor well to allow the steering arm to extend into! At the moment ive got an old 70HP 1974 Johnson on there and am looking at a new Yamaha 90HP 2 stroke. The question i have is if i get the steering arm hole fixed will the new steering arm fit in there. If anyone has a gullwing or similar and has a new or more modern motor id be interested to see how you have done it.



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sbeehre..I have a 70HP Yamaha about 1990 vintage and seems to have the same steering arm issue. Nice big hole in the fibreglass very much like that which is handy for letting water into the boat....Thumbs Down
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this one has an aluminium box on the inside so water cant get into the boat and it the only decent thing about it!
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Had two round holes in the well in my old (1974) Sea Nymph where the original rope steering went through and was able to fit blind grommets in both sides when I installed cable steering.  Had to make a hole in one of the grommets to let the cable through, but never had an issue with water getting in after that.  But your issue sbeehre, is a little more problematic than mine was.  Good luck with the repairs....
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Originally posted by sbeehre sbeehre wrote:

this one has an aluminium box on the inside so water cant get into the boat and it the only decent thing about it!
Mine is on my list of small things to get fixed....will be folowing this to see how you get on. Fingers crossed you get some good news from the threadWink
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Thats not an old motor issue, its an outboard steering issue, just how they opperate.

You could replace the steering cable with a shorter, or if you can hide a foot or so of cable, get a splash well mounting kit, and mount the steering cable to where it comes out on the starboard side, then it attaches straight to the front of the motor.

Will probably cost around $150 for the parts I would say to do this, ( plus a cable if yours is too long )

Let me know if you want me to price the parts for you.
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What about putting a pod on the back ?
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How about fibreglassing in a tube with the other end capped?  Was going to do that to my old Cresta craft V17 (before the motor died and we scrapped the boat).
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Hi Sbeehre .
I'll pop out the back of my place later this morning & photo what was done to my vessell , 74 vintage with cutout & rubbber boot inserted .
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Originally posted by Outboard Performance Outboard Performance wrote:

Thats not an old motor issue, its an outboard steering issue, just how they opperate.

You could replace the steering cable with a shorter, or if you can hide a foot or so of cable, get a splash well mounting kit, and mount the steering cable to where it comes out on the starboard side, then it attaches straight to the front of the motor.

Will probably cost around $150 for the parts I would say to do this, ( plus a cable if yours is too long )

Let me know if you want me to price the parts for you.

thanks that looks quite good! id never heard of them before... so if i put that on the current engine would it be able to be used with a new one?
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Originally posted by FISH 4 DINNA FISH 4 DINNA wrote:

Hi Sbeehre .
I'll pop out the back of my place later this morning & photo what was done to my vessell , 74 vintage with cutout & rubbber boot inserted .

thanks mate
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Originally posted by Busted! Busted! wrote:

How about fibreglassing in a tube with the other end capped?  Was going to do that to my old Cresta craft V17 (before the motor died and we scrapped the boat).

thats an option to but id just need to make sure it fits the new outboard as well.
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Here's some photos of my set up :

 
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thanks! it looks like your steering arm is slightly higher and points further forward than mine... i bought one of those rubber grommets but it wont fit the current setup unfortunately. 
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Originally posted by Outboard Performance Outboard Performance wrote:

Thats not an old motor issue, its an outboard steering issue, just how they opperate.

You could replace the steering cable with a shorter, or if you can hide a foot or so of cable, get a splash well mounting kit, and mount the steering cable to where it comes out on the starboard side, then it attaches straight to the front of the motor.

Will probably cost around $150 for the parts I would say to do this, ( plus a cable if yours is too long )

Let me know if you want me to price the parts for you.

is this what you are talking about? 
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Thats exactly what im talking about
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so if i was to use that kit does it get rid of the need for the long steering arm i have now? and apart from possibly new cable does it include all i would need?
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as long as it has the end on the end of it to attach to the steering arm of your motor, you are in business! Then you can fill the hole on the other side and it will look nice and tidy.
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Originally posted by Outboard Performance Outboard Performance wrote:

as long as it has the end on the end of it to attach to the steering arm of your motor, you are in business! Then you can fill the hole on the other side and it will look nice and tidy.

that sounds pretty good... i will check the cable length but I'm pretty sure i could move it back about a foot if i need to, thanks a lot for the advice mate!
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You will need to purchase a clevis kit aswell.  They $38 dollars. Attaches steering cable, to motor.
 
I could do you the same kit for $115 
 
You might need a 15 degree mounting kit.  Where it mounts is probably on an angle in the well. These kits are more expensive retial at 189 - could do for $160
 
Either type you will still need clvis kit
 
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