The Best Brine For Smoking

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Hi All, any suggestions of a good Brine for smoking fish ????
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Originally posted by makoman350 makoman350 wrote:

Hi All, any suggestions of a good Brine for smoking fish ????
 
 Hot or cold smoking?
 
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this is what I use
1/2 cup sugar (white or brown)
1/2 sea salt NON-iodized
1 l water

Adjust the quantities to suit the amount of fish you have just keep the proportions the same.
I leave it over night in the brine in the fridge then rinse it off then pop the fish back in the fridge on some old tea towels to dry off and develop a tackie skin. then its into my smoker. Sometimes I add some maple syrup and lemon pepper just before placing it the smoker. My smoker is a little chief and usually takes about 5 hrs for a batch of fish. Its neither a hot or cold smoker but someware in between.

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1 1/2 C Brown Sugar
1 C NON-iodized salt
5 L water
1 t Thyme

Dissolve in 500ml boiling water, add the dry thyme, add the rest of the cold water.
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 same as wizards.... allso add  between half and a cup of soy sauce with a table spoon of Worcester sauce ( cut back the cold water to compensate ) be sure to soak for at least 4hours...over night is better.. then leave to surface dry,,or pat the fish dry with paper towel to remove excess moisture...light garnish with sprinkle of parsley flakes finishes off nicely

 fish will turn a nice golden colour/puff up and remain juicy and tender...
 fish pictured is snapper and gurnard  manuka smoked over very mild heat for aprox 4 1/2hours

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ever tried it with nothing... fish taste even better.......



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Our brine is the4 same, but lately we have been adding a little golden syrup and chilli sauce just before we put it in.
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Originally posted by Lethal Lethal wrote:

ever tried it with nothing... fish taste even better.......


Done several like this on my Box Brownee on the bbq with the burners on low with kingis flap/wing and backbones and Kahawai and 15 - 20 min smoke Cool

But I have two big arse kahawai to smoke so I must try the brine recipe.Big smile

Or are there some new brines and recipes to learn?Thumbs Up

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Originally posted by Lethal Lethal wrote:

ever tried it with nothing... fish taste even better.......
 
Yup, 4 kingfish wings smoked in the hot smoker this arvo, just like that.
 
Wonderful.
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the smoke i did today is 1/2 cup brown sugard, 1/2 cup salt, tablespoon malt vinegar and bit of sweet chilli with about 4 cups water. brine for 4 hours then smoke
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Yesterday, I purchased, yes, purchased some salmon from the supermarket to test the new smoke generator that I'd attached to the old Brinkman.
First time I've spent $'s on fish in a while but it had to be done.
 
The slab on the left was smothered with sea salt & brown sugar & left in the fridge.
The slab on the right  was put into a brine mix, sea salt/water & left to soak for a couple of hours.
In both cases, I used a fork to "stab" holes in the flesh first.

Next step was to drain both samples, then I placed them in front of an oscillating fan for a couple of hours.
That dried them nicely & made the flesh just right for smoking.
 
I fired up the smoke machine for an hour, then added the bowl of hot charcoal for another couple of hours.
Then came the taste test...
Aunty couldn't tell the difference but said both were "nice"
 
So much for going to all the trouble.Shocked
Next time, I'll add some chilli sauce to one or t'other~~that should help to differentiateLOL 
 


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Dont be mean to Auntie....

I've often wondered about some smoke recipes, just how much the taste varies with the different mixtures.
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smoking brine,,well this is what i do,bear with me,,,
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two kgs of bacon brine from butcher,yes bacon brine desolved in hot water
1 pkt of lemon pepper, little box
2 sliced lemons
couple bay leaves
few pepper corns
1 cup sea salt,flaked
 1 cup brown suger
1/2 fill chilly bin with cold water and ice packs,

then i fillet fish and soak fillets over night up to 24 hrs ,drain then air dry and before i put in smoke house i spinkle a mix of brown suger,lemon pepper,black pepper and sea salt on them and the finale one is to trickle maple syurp over them ,and into smoke house,i normally do a cold smoke over night then a bit of heat in it to the end,or i just hot smoke it ,eather way works well.depends on ya time frame.Wink
if u try this, the fish come out of brine slightly red in colour,dont wory,its fine,
and people have told me that its pritty close to prefect,,,,enjoy.
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I reckon the simple sugar/salt brine is the best. Type of woodsmoke is something more to concentrate on and letting the fillets form that sticky pellicle by drying them out properly like Uncle did.  Flavour can be easily adjusted after.
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We use this for all our fish from snaps to marlin, Rub rock salt and brown sugar into fish leave to stand for 1 hour then a very quick rinse off in fish bin of sea water, leave to dry for a hour then into smoker.
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Originally posted by Uncle Uncle wrote:

Then came the taste test...
Aunty couldn't tell the difference but said both were "nice"
 
So much for going to all the trouble.Shocked
 
This is my experience too, except that the fish is noticabley drier and slighty smokier when brined.
 
I like my fish moist so I don't brine anymore. The fact that it is way quicker and slightly cheaper not to brine is just a bonus.
 
My smoker is a traditional, wood fired, warm one. 3 & 1/2 hours would be an average smoke time.
 
 
 
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what ever you use, use double the sugar to the salt. Salt should be sea salt, sugar brown

If you like salt then by all means equal quantities – I find most people no longer like real salty food.

add in cup of good dark rum or vodka if your so inclined.
add in some all spice berries
add in some juniper berries crushed

place in plastic sealable container
leave in fridge - fish 24 hours pork 5 to 7 days depending on size.
Remove liquid leave to dry in fridge for 1 day - on rack is best
smoke

Brilliant - do my hams this way ever year, never failed.


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I like my fish moist so I don't brine anymore.
 
 
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Cut the salt back and it won’t dry out, brining can add flavour for sure, depends on what else you add.


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I'm with Lethal on this one. I cant get my head around why you have to put fish in brine prior to smoking especially if you are using fresh water.
I usually prep my fish at sea. I cut them to smoke, sprinkle a generous amount of sea salt on them (surprising how much you can put on without them being salty) and leave them until I am ready to smoke them, sometimes up to 4-5 days in the chiller. Prior to smoking I rub them down with a paper towel and then sprinkle with my condiments and a bit more salt.
I think that the fact that the only contact with water they have is sea water and not fresh makes a difference but that only my opinion and I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong.
Dont be frightened to try different techniques/recipes etc, the results can be very satisfying and if you get it wrong then give the fish to someone you dont like and they will love you anyway  lol
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I was given a tip - rub salt into the fillets then hang on the clothes line overnight to drip dry. Flies won't touch it with the salt so no worries there. Smoke the next day. I did this and it was delicious.
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