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hi guys i was wondering if any of you guys have taken any corses to do with fish or work in any 'HIGH paying' jobs to do with the ocean.... because we are selecting subjects at school for what we wanna take next yr at school and it really important because of NCEA and stuff and once i choose a subject i cant change because i would of had to of done it the yr before... i was talkn to the carrers advisor and telling him what i am interested in etc and we got into biology and stuff because the only thing i no that i can auctully work for and be in the water is being a marine biologist but i dont really want to do all that other crap... is any one taking in courses taht involve fish and diving and will end up getting well payed and what do i need to take for 5th form... iam also doing art and there is a photography corse in 6th form and he said that that could relate to marine photography and i could also take geography to help with something???? for marine biology i just wanted some info on what i could look to be in job wise for the future that i can roll in the cash and love it! he said i need to do something i enjoy otherwise he said "itll be like pushing butter up a hill with a hot neddle" ??? so i was just wondering what jobs i could take and what corses i will need to take for that job... oh and i need to know by tomorrow night because we need to hand the form in for what we are taking on friday!Big%20smile

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Haha Jesus mate! LOL
 
Well if you like biology and fish, Marine Biology might be your thing at Auckland University.  From there you can go on to work with NIWA, MoFish, MAF, etc...
 
Im taking Aquaculture at AUT, but I don't know if they are going to continue the Paper as it doesn't have much interest in it.  However they are taking up Marine Biology as well.
 
Heres the Aquaculture course information:
 
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If you have an interest in the sciences, consider geology.  Lots of geo careers out there that involve the ocean not the least of which is offshore oil exploration (read as "big bucks").  I'm a hydrologist, but I've got a friend back in the states that's practically begging me to go to work at his firm doing some geophysical bore logging for oil exploration. Geologists have an incredible number of career paths to choose from.  All that, plus getting a geology degree(s) is hella fun.

Aquaculture can lead to huge bucks if you play your cards right, but it takes a lot of work and dedication (I did a fisheries minor and took some amazing aquaculture courses at the University of Florida).  Breaking the barrier of establishing brood stock of tropical species is where a lot of entrepreneurial types are leaning.

Good luck with the decision making - it's not easy!
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sweet guys thanks for dat and rusky what are you planning to do when u leave and do u think there is enough work in nz for ne of those future options mentioned? that geology sounds good aswel im pretty sure i will take that nowWink
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Its good that your speaking out and looking for advice thats a great first step. You should read the book "retire young retire rich" In this book you will learn that its was last generations thinking of you need a high paying job/career to be rich. Its all about building positive cashflow! Once you start to earn more and work less there will be more time to dive or.......become a sparky like me and slack off when the suns out and use all your holiday and sick days at the hen.

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What subjects are you best at now?

Sometimes it's good to keep your leisure stuff separate from your job - I got bored with something I really enjoyed by working in a job in that area for a couple of years......but there are loads of people who absolutely love their work.

IMO, one of the best things you can do is work for yourself or own your own business....in whatever field. You can work to suit your lifestyle.

You don't need to earn heaps to get the best of life - if you use your money wisely you can do well.



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jr.spearo.  Not sure yet on where my journeys will take me.  Italy, Australia, Japan, China, who knows, will cross that bridge when I come to it.
 
NIWA is a huge thing in NZ, along with Aquaculture it has 150 Million being invested into it in the next 5 years, the industry is quadroupling in size, and there is always new species yet to be farmed or researched.  Northland is the next target for Aquaculture.
 
Plus the demand for a sustainable source of fish is always increasing...
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ok great guys... im scaerd that if i dont do something that i like i will dread doingit but iam scared that i will get bored of spearfishingConfused!!!!! i have also planned to start my own company bu tis it possible after the pay of ne of those jobs and what one is the best payed? growing up ive alwaes wanted to be really rich and famous and be on about 50m a yr. and move to america etc... i want to have the flash cars and massive boats and own hotels etc i want to be the best i was even concidering law...... do you know what to do that would open upthe best oppitunties for me after the corse so i can start  sum massive company and then be able to retire and just come back to nz and dive for the rest of my life and be the best spearo in the world..... if u guys can help me decide what to choose and if i become really rich i will give all u guys 1millon each for a gift!!!!! so lets just hope i get luckyWink
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I did a couple of years of a marine bio degree and hated every second of it. You learn a lot about a broad range of things, which is OK for some, but I like to learn a lot about specific things.
I changed to an Aquaculture degree and Im still about 6 months to a year away from graduating but I've already been offered a good job overseas which I'm still deciding wether or not to take.
As a growth industry globally you probably cant go past aquaculture.
 
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ok sweet... what kinfd of things can you do with a degree of that apart from marine farming?
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Mate I don't know how old you are...not sure when they took spelling out of the corriculum either LOL

Many people I know don't work out what they want to do untill they are 23 or more and I know plenty over 30 who are still trying to work it out.

Just get into something you enjoy and has plenty of hot chicks around it. If you want to be rich start saving for a house deposit and get your first home before your 22... even if you can't afford to live in it yourself....... actually, you'd better get a boat firstLOL
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hahaha umm we just have to decide fro corses of what we wana do wen we oldr... and i do do no how to spell hahaha just shorten it when dosnt matter as much haha well i dont want to be some old person when i start to work i wanna be at the best funnest part in my life straight away!
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mate I can honestly say at 24 that you dont know what you reeeeeallly want to do yet.. well you may but its unlikly. there are soooo many things out there that school wont even mention about.
my advice to you is learn and do well in the subjects that apply to heaps of things- maths, business, geography, broad stuff that wont be to hard for you to grasp later and gives you a range of knowlage. much of what you learn there will be general knowlage to you later.
 
I never thought I would ever have to use maths again when I was 5th form I got school cert and blew it off asap....wishing I had not because now im 24, studying civil engineering while working fulltime and having to learn it...hard, enjoyable though.
 
civil engineering could be a good one for you..has lots to do with everything, huge amounts of variety, coastal, geological, hydrostatics and hydrology, structures earthworks its all part of it..
 
Enjoy these years of your life boy...you are on easy street right now.
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The three most wealthy people I know left school in 5th form, go figure. But, school is awesome, the hardest decision you have to make is what you put on your form tomorrow!

And don't fret about or belive that the subjects you take in 5th, 6th and even 7th form are going to define which career options you have in the future. Just make sure you do well at what ever you do take, people are more interested in seeing that if you decide to do something you can do it well. I reccomend art subjects due to a higher girl to guy ratio.
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Jr Spearo - I worked for NIWA for 8 years - was on their dive team doing research work (surveys etc). I worked full time as a paua and kina diver for 8 years too, as well as part time for another 3 or 4 years. I enjoyed all of it. I'm a schoolteacher now, and do you know what - I enjoy my spearfishing way more now. One thing I can say, is that in Marine Biology you are not going to get rich. You won't get rich doing paua and kina unless you own your own quota, and to be honest getting to that stage you'll be poor for a long time first - quota is mucho expensive.
The one thing you do get from the paua and kina is diving fitness and spearfishing experience. It's no coincidence some of the best spearos are commercial divers.
Marine biology is bloody interesting, but only if you are an academic sort - does that describe you?
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Only gypsies really know what your future holds Jr.
 
What you do at school doesnt reeeeeealy matter in the long run. The school will tell you otherwise but just ignore them. Most unis offer intro papers if you havent done that subject at school (chem, stats etc...) to get you into the next stage papers.
 
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Some good words there guys, and a really good question from jr Spearo to start it all off!

I agree it doesn't really matter what you do at school. I sorta wish I'd taken more languages and more biology, but I enjoyed what I did anyway.  Do what interests you at school and ignore what will earn the most money. The Rich List is published each year and includes a huge variety of people who did pretty random things to get rich.

If we all could think of a way to make zillions whilst spearfishing we would be doing it.  As DD says, being a scientific diver or kina/paua diver or working at NIWA, deep sea diver (danger pay), scuba instructor, dive shop owner, charter boat owner, underwater photography, etc is likely to provide a living, but will not make you filthy rich. 
 
Most people get rich by having people work for them, and by making their money work for them, but seldom by working themselves.  Occassionally brilliant people make millions and millions by being very good or persistent at random things - creating trademe, 42 below vodka, creating google, bank robbery, real estate investment, finance etc... but most of it is old family money!
 
Ingrid Visser the Orca lady always encourages young people to study what they love doing regardless of the money - she always wanted to study orcas.  Often the happiest people do jobs like hers that rely on grants and public funding but are rewarding.  Imagine being out with Orca every day and finding out new things - how cool would that be?
 
Specialist professionals like hydrographers, hydrologists, marine surveyors, etc can earn pretty good money and spend time on ships which would be great when you are in your 20's but sucky if you want to have a family. But they are not filthy rich.
 
It is most important to understand maths and english and/or other languages, basic biology and physics and art at your stage.  If you learn to communicate with language and maths you can do anything.   Most people do a variety of jobs in their lifetimes these days so you don't want your basic education to be too narrow.
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 Hey Jr.spero,

Its great to see that you are thinking about your future. I studied both marine bio and money & finance at uni. A rather random mix I know but I enjoyed both a lot.

 
The Snapper Whisper makes a great point  “The Rich List is published each year and includes a huge variety of people who did pretty random things to get rich.”

 

There is serious money to be made in ever industry as long as you do what you do well.

 

For example: you could sell tooth paste and become the next colgate, make vodka and become the next 42 below.

 

If you are driven to make serious wealth then working one day for yourself is a given….there are very few salaries out there that will make you huge wealth.

 

I truly believe that if the ocean is your passion then follow your dreams….but just remember there is far more to life then just $$$.

 

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how insistent are you on making your living lawfully? Either way, once you've made your first million you can write a "get rich quick" book...
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