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I guess this would be a good place to nut out views on tackle, be it new products to the market or older stuff you wanna ask other yakkers about.

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In response to Chip'n question about the Okuma Baidarka on another thread, I saw them a while back and looked them up but after seeing the lengths of them I was put off. They are suppose to have a kayak specific "action" what ever that is when the rod is 7' and 7'6"... I would imagine that most of the time a parabolic action is more desirable on the yak but at 7'6" that would be a mission.
The attach point for the leash for me is in the wrong place for my stlye of fishing but I guess thats more personal preference than anything.
The floating thing I dont really think is necessary if you leash your rods to the kayak, okay if the rod naturally floats without any mods having to be added but I can't think what they've added to make it float with a reel on it.
I'd like to see one in the flesh anyways but don't think i'd buy one.
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Gamakatsu worm hooks-Dont know if these are a specific model but the 7/0 I got had a very small barb. They say it gives better penetration. I say it doesnt hold the fish as well. Each to their own. But I caught KY and Trev on them and rates of fish coming off when they wiggle a bit is higher than my nitro jigheads. And they werent the sharpest to start off with.
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I have absolutely no trouble handling big fish on  a 7' Sp rod while fishing from a kayak.    Manyatimes I had to pass the rod over my bow when a strong fish wanted to drag my tip under the hull and was glad to have the extra lenght.    On the other hand I tested a 5' Penn kayak rod and found it to be a real lifeless stump puller that took the fun out of fishing.   
 
I also cut down an old CD # 12-14 weight Boron/graphite SW flyrod blank and made that into an 8' parabolic action stray line rod.    Caught heaps of big snapper and kingies on it and again had no prblem bringing played out fish in close to release or to gaff.   The only problem I see with bigger rods is storage while going through surf.   However that can be overcome with a bit of planning.     If there is any chance of a turtle I always remove the reels and keep them in a plastic bag or two.   I never trust my limmited surfing skills to leave gear sticking out of my kayak.   
 
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Ive gone about halfway with the 6'6 dropshot. I can get it round the bow if needed even with my vertically challenged body and when landing a fish I sit the rod beside me and take a wrap on the trace or just net the fish.

I would be intersted to hear how Phishpullas new Shakespeare rod goes as Ive always thought they might be a bit short for softbaiting.
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I know the rod length thing is fairly well sorted for both sides and it's all about the individual (as is pretty much everything to do with fishing) but that particular penn rod is hardly a bench mark to judge short rods by. I think that rod to be another example of things being designed for kayakers by non-kayakers. The ugly stick kayak rod is too for that matter, a 1-3kg 3' & 4' kids rod renamed kayak rod does not make it a kayak rod IMO.
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Geez i hope thats not the one Phish got but then he is a big kid Clown
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It works if your going to pull up average snapper but its got basically no grips so it's hard to fight a fish for a long time. If ya get a kahawai your screwed, the rod just turns inside out being as noddly as it is.
I don't think its the one he's getting though....


It's got no reel on it cause it died a horrible death after one day out (daiwa regal).
Every other uglystik I've had I love.
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I to have a 6'6 Dropshot ..I find it to be a good length I can get it around the bow with out to much trouble and can still get a good cast out of it ...
 
I think if I was to get another rod or replace it I would go with the same length..
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I think the common thing that is coming thru here is personal preference.  I like the length of the rod that I currently have but was sick of not having any low down grunt. I am no expert but for me the rod I currently have was long enough to go around the front.

I will post pictures of my new rod later this evening for those concerned about its yak fish ability.  No it isn't a kayak fishing rod - but its gonna suit me fine. The tackle shop I frequent is now sold out of these little rods. With me getting the last one. Robin Brooke got the other three.

May I remind some of you that it wasn't that long ago I was fishing with 65pd braid on a 4kg rod. So one evolutionary step at a time for me I thinks!
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I don't think any one is going to question your personal preference phishpula with the amount of fish you have caught over the summer the results speak for them selves... 
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I second that after seeing you pull up that 15LBer the other day Thumbs%20Up
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Standard bic lighter. note how thin it is.  Dead lifted a 6kg weight today just to see if it could handle my abuse - it can. Might get an opportunity for field testing later in the week.



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Told ya he sleeps with it!!Its on the bed LOLLOL
Hope she is everything you are after PhishThumbs%20Up
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Been given the go ahead to get a GPS if I want. Any advice on cost and type would be appreciated.
How worthwhile are they ?
Are they waterproof or do you need a drybag ?
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A GPS is a natural partner to a FF.   In a nut shell a FF allows you to find productive spots and the GPS lets you return to them with an accuracy of +or- 5m.   
 
I got a simple Garmin E-Trex 12 channels that has served me well for several years of yak fishing.   I have never bothered to keep it in a drybag either just slipping it under the tackle box bungie so that I can see the screen.     It is as accurate as any and gives me all the waypoints, odometer readings as well as a lot of stuff I don't use.    Ofcourse you can get more expensive  models where  you can down load NZ marine charts etc but do you really need such a facility for simple yak fishing??????    However, there are some punters who want all the bells and whistles to play around with and dont mind shelling out the $$$$$$.    Have not seen them catch any more fish, though.
 
My motto "to keep it simple" has paid off over the years.
 
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Yea do the Etrex, the map versions are cool if you do a lot of fishing in new areas and want to know what's around but they're to small to plan trips from etc. a real chart is much better for that.
Theres bugger all to see out form paps anyways, I used mine to mark the hook ups and could return and work from that spot if the bites buggered off over the drift. They're also good when returning to the right spot on the beach when its dark or everything looks the same.
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Thanks Rainbow that sounds like me, simple Tongue.
What sort of dollars are they ?
I am going to Australia next week do you think it would be any cheaper there or duty fee ?
Would you be better keeping it on your self incase you got seperated from your yak and then you could call up the coastguard " hi I am just floating around 10km off Taranaki at such n such a location etc "LOL
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I run an old yellow Etrex $100 off trademe.  No problems with watertightness on deck, and good battery life.
Beware of GPS's with sockets for external aerials (GPS12xl, GPS60CSX that I know of) as salt water in these causes rapid growth of green mush (I'm talking a matter of hours)
 
 
 
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After getting carried away and highsticking a good king yesterday I ended up with a brand new 2-piece rodCry
 
Recommendations for a nice yak-rated 10 - 15kg spinning rod ?
 
(Nothing worse than losing a new rod whilst also losing a good fish in water so shallow you can jump in and run after it!)
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