kingiFiddla wrote: Why do we need 3 kingfish a day? Drop it to one |
Muppet wrote: [QUOTE=Hook-it] [QUOTE=Muppet] Again said many times putting your money where your mouth is with a recreational license like the freshwater guys is the only way forward for recs. [/QUOTE A license could enable so many things like more/improved ramps, facilities and even projects like fish hatcheries. Even having a proper voice in decisions on reserves which I am not against just not how they are decided on and by whom. I agree with Tzer on the actual size of the Gulf. East coast of Coromandel, really? |
Hook-it wrote:
Point taken |
Muppet. [/QUOTE wrote: I agree with nearly all you say Hook It your sentiment is right. Population growth is only a small part of the problem though in reality. The vast majority of fishos are still probably “kiwis”. Besides the immigrants should get to enjoy the lifestyle they moved here for should they not? Access to money to finance the boat and all the gear is vastly easier for a lot of people through various means. Add on a good number of land based fishos, the kayakers and long liners from the beach who cover cheaper forms of fishing. The remarkable thing is all forms work and do catch a lot of fish which is why I always doubt how bad things really are. I would say us fishermen who are out often and see with our eyes and indeed fishfinders know a lot more than said experts telling us what is what. |
waynorth wrote:
Good point - maybe 2 would be a good start. And why is the kingfish limit included with puka of all things. Speaking of which, who needs 5 puka per day. And 5 bluenose - they are a separate limit within the 20 mixed-bag limit. - 2 kings, 2 puka, 2 bluenose. - Follow up on the no-discards rule being introduced for comms, & do away with the size limit for snapper. 7 fish (east coast) - you keep whatever you catch. If you catch 7 at 20cm that's what you take home. Might help stop the damage done dragging countless undersize snapper out of 30m. Most will die, even if they 'swim away strongly'. - A licence to fish would be acceptable, but allow people to chose from several options as to where their fee will be spent. - Encourage boat owners to do at least a Day Skipper course by allowing it to function as their fishing licence. Or perhaps even their annual Coastguard membership. - Follow up on recent reports of huge numbers of pink maomao being plundered by recs. Putting them into the 20-bag limit would take - what - 5 minutes ? |
waynorth wrote:
Good point - maybe 2 would be a good start. And why is the kingfish limit included with puka of all things. Speaking of which, who needs 5 puka per day. And 5 bluenose - they are a separate limit within the 20 mixed-bag limit. - 2 kings, 2 puka, 2 bluenose. - Follow up on the no-discards rule being introduced for comms, & do away with the size limit for snapper. 7 fish (east coast) - you keep whatever you catch. If you catch 7 at 20cm that's what you take home. Might help stop the damage done dragging countless undersize snapper out of 30m. Most will die, even if they 'swim away strongly'. - A licence to fish would be acceptable, but allow people to chose from several options as to where their fee will be spent. - Encourage boat owners to do at least a Day Skipper course by allowing it to function as their fishing licence. Or perhaps even their annual Coastguard membership. - Follow up on recent reports of huge numbers of pink maomao being plundered by recs. Putting them into the 20-bag limit would take - what - 5 minutes ? |
Muppet wrote:
I agree with nearly all you say Hook It your sentiment is right. Population growth is only a small part of the problem though in reality. The vast majority of fishos are still probably “kiwis”. Besides the immigrants should get to enjoy the lifestyle they moved here for should they not? Access to money to finance the boat and all the gear is vastly easier for a lot of people through various means. Add on a good number of land based fishos, the kayakers and long liners from the beach who cover cheaper forms of fishing. The remarkable thing is all forms work and do catch a lot of fish which is why I always doubt how bad things really are. I would say us fishermen who are out often and see with our eyes and indeed fishfinders know a lot more than said experts telling us what is what. |
waynorth wrote:
Good point - maybe 2 would be a good start. And why is the kingfish limit included with puka of all things. Speaking of which, who needs 5 puka per day. And 5 bluenose - they are a separate limit within the 20 mixed-bag limit. - 2 kings, 2 puka, 2 bluenose. - Follow up on the no-discards rule being introduced for comms, & do away with the size limit for snapper. 7 fish (east coast) - you keep whatever you catch. If you catch 7 at 20cm that's what you take home. Might help stop the damage done dragging countless undersize snapper out of 30m. Most will die, even if they 'swim away strongly'. - A licence to fish would be acceptable, but allow people to chose from several options as to where their fee will be spent. - Encourage boat owners to do at least a Day Skipper course by allowing it to function as their fishing licence. Or perhaps even their annual Coastguard membership. - Follow up on recent reports of huge numbers of pink maomao being plundered by recs. Putting them into the 20-bag limit would take - what - 5 minutes ? |
Tzer wrote:
What you say here is very much the case, I prefer to believe what I see each and everyday out fishing and not what is read on a piece of paper. As when having read some report stating the a species is in dire straights such as Tarakihi for example, yet when out here just about every spot hold good numbers of Tarakihi. If fishing was that bad then why do we so many great catches being posted to facebook and even here, before the invent of digital cameras your photos were film based but you had to then keep them to brag about your catches, these days you can just upload for the whole world to see. What you need to remember is that those touting the propganda line that our fisheries are stuffed are nothing more than self appointed experts who in my view let their own ideals/opinions as facts rather than tell the whole story. Remember the old saying "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story" or lie depending on how you view that. |
Big -Dave wrote: I still see trawlers in the Gulf, recently within one kilometer of the black rocks. And yeah, my skills must be lacking, as out by the black rocks, I seem to catch large numbers of undesired fish. It's rare for me to stumble upon a school of decent size fish. I don't have the time or patience to get that good at it. But 10 years ago, a decent feed was easy. I'm not sure what to believe anymore. |
v8-coupe wrote:
Yup. I am the same. Maybe stop the trawlers from targeting the migrational spawning routes for a month to let a few thousand more through. I do not know. Just thinking out loud. |
Muppet wrote:
Why fish there though when right now there is a load of gurnard moved inshore in the Gulf. The snapper have largely cleared off allowing the baits to stay down longer for the carrots to get them. Doing what you always do does not work all the time. It has been demonstrated time and again. |
Big -Dave wrote: I hear what you are saying Muppet, I do try different rigs, baits, locations, along the rocky kelp shoreline, out deep on the worm beds, on a few reefs I know..I do need to up skill, I now go out alone so I can dawdle all day and try different options. |
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