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Originally posted by Sanchez Sanchez wrote:

cost of charter plane tickets both ways @ conservative 4k per trip - 3,200,000 
cost of quarantine x 400  - 1,600,000


thats approx 4.8 million just to get them on the boats and as V8 said that will be deducted from any tax they have to pay. . .  Plus alot of their wages go back off shore. Plus now the tax payer is stumping up for the resulting outbreak

I am staggered they wouldn't spend that on finding and training 400+ local fellas.  18+ hour days in my industry for short periods of time and weeks away from family is common. There are a lot of kiwis not on crack, and not afraid of hard work. They should be finding them. 




i think you will find that they dont pay anywhere near 3.2million for a plane trip here.
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Let's work it out then. I'm guessing. Based from what I have read 4k for a ticket to Europe is what it costs at the moment. They charted a plane? There'll be a ton of extra costs involved on that. But like I said. I'm just guessing. Let me know what you think it is.
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Either way Sanchez it should be done by Kiwis I totally agree with you.
Plus what is wrong with whoever owns the quota investing in boats and local workers?
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Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

Either way Sanchez it should be done by Kiwis I totally agree with you.
Plus what is wrong with whoever owns the quota investing in boats and local workers?
Here you go "Mupet" 31 jobs of all sorts,cooks,skippers,oilers etc

6 weeks at,no cell phone?/Hmm that be a problem
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I heard today, not sure if true but sounds right... that two Sandford boats are Russian built so russian systema nd alsorts requiring russian crew to run it... 

So sound business buying two ships that Kiwis cannot operate!Ouch
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Originally posted by Catchelot Catchelot wrote:

I heard today, not sure if true but sounds right... that two Sandford boats are Russian built so russian systema nd alsorts requiring russian crew to run it... 

So sound business buying two ships that Kiwis cannot operate!Ouch

Or shrewd business.
Maybe picking them up cheap and being able to crew them with cheap labour.
The boats and their crew may not need to be covered by New Zealand's minimum wage and draconian/crippling health and safety regime.
Not having to abide by our H&S would be a boon/saving for any business.
Of course they maybe covered.
I do not know.
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Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

Originally posted by Muppet Muppet wrote:

Either way Sanchez it should be done by Kiwis I totally agree with you.
Plus what is wrong with whoever owns the quota investing in boats and local workers?
Here you go "Mupet" 31 jobs of all sorts,cooks,skippers,oilers etc

6 weeks at,no cell phone?/Hmm that be a problem


Heard the guy on the radio saying they were almost impossible to fill. He believed it was not laziness but just people don't want to do it.
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Originally posted by v8-coupe v8-coupe wrote:

Originally posted by Catchelot Catchelot wrote:

I heard today, not sure if true but sounds right... that two Sandford boats are Russian built so russian systema nd alsorts requiring russian crew to run it... 

So sound business buying two ships that Kiwis cannot operate!Ouch


Or shrewd business.
Maybe picking them up cheap and being able to crew them with cheap labour.
The boats and their crew may not need to be covered by New Zealand's minimum wage and draconian/crippling health and safety regime.
Not having to abide by our H&S would be a boon/saving for any business.
Of course they maybe covered.
I do not know.


All vessels fishing in New Zealand EEZ must be Kiwi flagged which means they come under our health and safety and labour laws, including minimum wage.
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90k is pretty decent. 45 less so. Must frustrate the hell out of Sealord HR that the phone is not ringing.
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Yeah that's entry level. Not bad for a 16 or 17 yo with 3 months training.

I met one guy that got given the choice between juvenile detention and fishing school. He chose fishing school, got himself a career and out of a path to prison, and was on $65K by the age of 17.
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Great result croc. Should be the best conditions in a long while to secure local workforce. Mining is similar in a lot of ways to fishing in terms of remote locations and long shifts on and off site. . . and jobs are leaking from that industry. Lots of kiwis out of work in Aust. Embarrassing there’s not enough interest considering.
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Originally posted by the croc the croc wrote:

Originally posted by v8-coupe v8-coupe wrote:

Originally posted by Catchelot Catchelot wrote:

I heard today, not sure if true but sounds right... that two Sandford boats are Russian built so russian systema nd alsorts requiring russian crew to run it... 

So sound business buying two ships that Kiwis cannot operate!Ouch


Or shrewd business.
Maybe picking them up cheap and being able to crew them with cheap labour.
The boats and their crew may not need to be covered by New Zealand's minimum wage and draconian/crippling health and safety regime.
Not having to abide by our H&S would be a boon/saving for any business.
Of course they maybe covered.
I do not know.


All vessels fishing in New Zealand EEZ must be Kiwi flagged which means they come under our health and safety and labour laws, including minimum wage.

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which Is easily navigated by paying crew % of catch or put on contract.  There is always a work around in the scramble for profit/money. Serving drinks in a bar to happy people is a more desirable way of earning minimum wage I reckon. 
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Your dead right muppet. Sooooo many people don't want to get there hands dirty these days
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I know I don’t 
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