The only ones that matter are the clusters.

The last case was a toddler of one the Rosewood cluster. Hardly a raver.

Or the test is 74% reliable.

We will see as I have said all along.

We.l b ok. Nothing to see here

Yes, we will see, but if we just respect the math, just a little bit longer, the view being better increases in probability. Two weeks of being respectful is minor compared to basic training and off to WW1 with a jovial attitude. Then mud mud **** and blood.

That interview is a crock of ****... watch the bastard squirm at 3.16 when he says " the over whelming majority would of died a bit later  but not much later anyway"  ... Have a think about that.. what he is actually saying is WE ARE PREPARED TO SACRIFICE THOSE LIVES A BIT EARLIER...  a bit like the colonel telling the guys in the trenches charge fellas and we will see what happens, while the colonel stays nicely tucked up in his chateau way behind his own lines drinking port. Stuck up pompus prick.

Lord Sumption . Well after watching vid we were spoken to by a very intelligent person in my mind. No problem with what he said at all. He at no time squirmed, as has been said, he just put thought into his answers. The lady interviewer was typical of her profession. You can figure that one out. 

It doesn’t really matter. Excess deaths are excess deaths. 50,000 more dead than expected. Clearly related to COVID and it doesn’t matter what comorbidities they had as we already know the virus is more deadly to those with poor health so citing what’s on the death certificate is just being disingenuous.

Other studies in Italy have shown the same pattern. Excess deaths with a very strong correlation with the covid outbreak.

You have to assume that the excess of death would be far higher without a lockdown.

This is quite different to the rest of his argument which is correct. Now that the curve has been squashed, health system capability enhanced and most critically contact tracing beefed up we will now just have to live with the virus.

That is why I and others supported a 4 week lockdown in NZ but argued the move to 3 and 2 was too slow. So we ended up doing further unnecessary economic damage.

Now we just need to get on with life and even if there is a spike in cases suck it up as there is no possibility of going back into lockdown. There would be riots in the streets.

The challenge of our generation and it has as many fails as the old School C.

 I still have my old school Cert papers plus the yrs leading up to the end yr exam.
Few yrs back gave them to a group of 1st and 2nd yr Uni students.. maths  physics, chemistry , English...
 They did didnt quite know the age group for SC  (15 yrs)

Every one of them thought they papers where way too hard, and at levels above them.. one of them Duxed intermediate  and streamed collage

 Then showed them some UE papers..!