BigEarn wrote:
Rights to attend school being taken away due to lack of vaccination is nothing new and is not uncommon around the globe. I'd consider education a service. Freedom to travel has been and still is bound to vaccination certificates for yellow fever, malaria, polio, hepatitis etc. depending on where you are traveling from, through and to. While that's mainly international movement, you will find people without certain vaccinations have been restricted in regional movements within countries already pre-Covid, e.g. in B&H. Other penalties for non-compliance with vaccine mandates also existed for a long time across the globe. Mainly those were financial penalties, but in the some countries people could face imprisonment or the temporary oss of child custody (e.g. Italy). If you look Europe right now and think vaccinated and unvaccinated enjoy the same kind of freedom, you're wrong. There is many places and events which you can only visit with either a vaccination passport or a certification that you recovered from Covid. |
Titahi wrote:
Your absolutely right BigEarn! Muppet's propensity for " making stuff up" to fit his political naritave called out once again... |
cirrus wrote: How does a vaccine that dosent stop transmission stop a pandemic. just asking for a friend |
kitno wrote:
Tell your friend it stops the majority of transmission and/or lessens the effects of the virus. Your friend should sit down with his GP and have a discussion. |
fish-feeder wrote: I'm doing my part by staying out of the public,what are you doing? |
Hook-it wrote: Too old to be offended smudge. I don't beat around the bush. it is what it is for me. Cheers. |
fish-feeder wrote: I'm just not sure man can trust a vax developed by a company that has just recalled champix,a cessation of smoking drug that has been proven to cause cancer . |
fish-feeder wrote: I'm not anti vax,I've said this how many times? My kids have had all their MMR vaccinations and I've had quite a few flu shots. I'm pro choice,it's a pretty simple concept,it goes like this ... I and I alone decide what I put into my body,not the govt,not some politician. To all you pro vax/anti choice people,what will you do when efficacy rates start dropping rapidly like they are in some countries down to 39% and less? I'm just not sure man can trust a vax developed by a company that has just recalled champix,a cessation of smoking drug that has been proven to cause cancer and that same company had been found guilty of bribing doctors to push their product,let alone a vax that will still be in trials for another 2yrs,I think that's all the reasoning I need. You do you and that's fine. |
fish-feeder wrote: I'm not anti vax,I've said this how many times? My kids have had all their MMR vaccinations and I've had quite a few flu shots. I'm pro choice,it's a pretty simple concept,it goes like this ... I and I alone decide what I put into my body,not the govt,not some politician. To all you pro vax/anti choice people,what will you do when efficacy rates start dropping rapidly like they are in some countries down to 39% and less? I'm just not sure man can trust a vax developed by a company that has just recalled champix,a cessation of smoking drug that has been proven to cause cancer and that same company had been found guilty of bribing doctors to push their product,let alone a vax that will still be in trials for another 2yrs,I think that's all the reasoning I need. You do you and that's fine. |
Pcj wrote:
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smudge wrote:
He didn't call you Anti Vax did he? It was a general statement. I'm not against those who aren't getting the covid vax it is their choice. The only thing that I find hard to stomach are the anti vaxxers that keep posting up misinformation, poor souls really believe what they're saying. You know the type - the ones who think Bill Gates is the devil, the ones who hate any form of authority whatsoever. Those people |
fish-feeder wrote: semantics mate....but if you really must know,im on bore water, not that I drink alot of water from the tap...it's usually bottled water, or beer. |
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