CrayZfish wrote: Does not particularly bother me this whole story but it will be bloody facinating to hear if they get charged as others have already. Also this one has had a whole lot more public interest so if they back down there will be public backlash.

I am a realist, having owned a holiday home I can tell you none of my children would go to it without checking with me. This holiday home is owned by 2 couples, both couples include a judge. Both couples say they didn't know. I am not calling them liars but if they are to remain judges there needs to be an investigation, I would suggest the police check mobile phones and emails. The NZ public deserve the truth not denials and apologies

As we have seen many times being charged is one thing, getting the right convictions in NZ is quite another.

If she hadn't gone to hospital for the other issue we would never had known she had covid.  How many people are there out there who have covid but have no idea?


Which brings us right back to.... why lockdown.?

 Dont know have it, or know, makes no difference.

Everyone goes into lock down AND takes it seriously..

14 or so days pass, doesnt matter if got it or not, you are over it and not spreading it.
 No more community spread ... no more lock down

And we get on with our lives...
 But No doesnt happen this way.
Why because everything is" pretty  please", "can you ..."
Then next "breath need to do it"

If it NEEDS to be done, then resonsable leadership makes it happen, and if doesnt , examples are made, lots of them.

Heard the other day, a boat sold in Auckland.. buy had exemption as worker, used it to cross the border, pick up pay for the boat.. then got checked crossing back.. instant $300 fine.

Really?.. presenting an official document for fraudulent use?
 Nothing
Crossing back over border without good reason..
with essential work papers.. again fraudulent use of a document plus crossing breaking rules.
 $300   thats $300 on something like a $15000 to  $20000 Purchase..

So here we are 5th /6th (lost count) week into L4 lockdown..
 Because ppl cant stay home  ppl must break rules.
 And the consequences are business left right and center going bust, workers cant pay bills , food, rent..
 Industry even out of Auckland that rely on stuff from Auckland come to a halt..
 Massive economic consequences.

Now print off a few $50 bills , past them off... couple yrs prison because counterfeit money puts our economy at risk..
 

I wonder how much Cindy will give them to help with their covid workshop program?

Probably not Smudge, but I am disgusted that a gang can have a funeral with heaps of people and the soft cock attitude of the police is they watch, where as my father died in lockdown and we could only have 10 people. We abide by the rules and they get 3 million. Wtf

fishfeeder2 wrote: im not spinning anything smudge..Im just saying people are putting too much faith into the eradication idea....just the same as people thinking a vaccine will keep up with the rate of mutation...it never will. Virus's mutate between hosts...thats how they survive.

fishfeeder2 wrote: in what way smudge? trying to stop a virus killing an economy? yeah we are killing it.

fishfeeder2 wrote: ...we cant keep locking down everytime there is an out-break.

waynorth wrote: fishfeeder2 wrote: ...we cant keep locking down everytime there is an out-break. We had no option this time with Delta - the vaccine rate was too low. We would have swamped the hospitals & probably seen high death rates. Once we hit 80-90% vaccination other options become available, depending on the severity of any new mutations. Annual booster shots, self isolation, vaccination passports - hard to be proactive when its the virus that is calling the shots.