https://covid19.govt.nz/assets/resources/Legislation-and-key-documents/COVID-19-Section-701f-Notice-to-all-persons-in-New-Zealand-3-April-2020-v2.PDF

need to see some proof of the no spirits claim lad, as far as I can tell they can still sell online

BeastMode wrote: pjc wrote: The positives of this covid19?? The obesity rate might drop(no takeaways) people learning to cook,in a short time you can make a healthy simple meal,exercising when they dont normally. Talking to neighbours(over the fence)connecting long lost friends,phone/FB Might appreciate touring NZ (when allowed) and not dong the OE?? NZ motels might drop prices to encourage to see home first(not holding my breathe). I suspect there would have been more positives (or less negatives rather) from letting it run its course, in comparison. We will see.

pjc wrote: https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/sale-spirits-rtds-west-auckland-liquor-stores-banned-during-lockdown-stop-long-queues-towners Yes online sales but will a courier deem it essential??

yep so that's quite different to your original post.....

big challenge is keep lockdown in place long enough and ease off without a rise again - I suspect overseas travel will be restricted for a long timemaybe a year or more?

OneWayTraffic wrote: First post on this thread. NZ is starting to slip off the trendline. Last few days have been almost linear.  Explanation here, for those that struggle with maths. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54XLXg4fYsc Graphs here  https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/ Nice thing about log graphs is that they turn things into straight lines, and NZ is just beginning to get off it.  We have a chance to get back to normality (except for foreign students and tourism) sooner than I would have thought.

Exactly "Muppet" once winter flu/colds start and mix with the virus will be in it deeper.

BeastMode wrote: pjc wrote: The positives of this covid19?? The obesity rate might drop(no takeaways) people learning to cook,in a short time you can make a healthy simple meal,exercising when they dont normally. Talking to neighbours(over the fence)connecting long lost friends,phone/FB Might appreciate touring NZ (when allowed) and not dong the OE?? NZ motels might drop prices to encourage to see home first(not holding my breathe). I suspect there would have been more positives (or less negatives rather) from letting it run its course, in comparison. We will see.

 Both ofthese post  certainly make on think..
 In the back of my mind, yes all good a and fluffies we may very well see this crisis out with serious consequences other than economic.

But poses a big question in my head...
What scares me is lets say NZ sees this out basically unscathed.
We have a population with nil resistance to this flu..
The other flus, have come and gone and to a certain degree around the world some resistance unless under laying conditions..and even most those may have some immunity to getting baddly sick.

Now with NZ population being protected, we start to go back to normal.. eventually people will stat to go off shore , come back, espec politicians..and we will have ppl coming into the country..
To a country with nil resistance.. and keep in mind a vaccine is a good 12/18 months away and by the time NZ gets enough to inject the population
 And if vaccination would be compulsory..

IF Im right having isolated to the degree of not allowing it to spread at all we as a country and it citizens may very well be in a far worse position long term
 Heath and economic..

Its just an abstract thought thinking all this stuff thru for the next 1 to 5 yrs..

Have we made a mistake on full isolate not letting spread at all?
or was that not the actual intention? we just did it so well?

Should we at least let it spread in a very controlled manner so not as to overload  medical services and keep serious cases very well supported?

Are my concerns just wrong, why? or right  have substance???

Another question I have.
 We have hospital at around 50% all elective surgery stopped.. before this or DHBs where having issues with ppl dieing  becoming disabled because of delays etc...
 Where are these people, lots of them now?  how are they doing? Are they still dieing  and if so more of them?

Where the hell are the old school investigative reporters who used to think these things thru and follow up ?

No it is fair enough.

Waylander wrote: Just needing a place to vent, but as someone who is abiding by the lockdown, to the point our second child was born at home on last Tuesday (healthy little girl). How is the GOVT not cracking down on these people hard https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/04/coronavirus-resident-furious-outsiders-ignoring-lockdown-to-use-holiday-homes.html Seriously pisses my off! We need to now see the iron hand enforcing this thing. Otherwise it's just been a complete joke. In my humble opinion..... Maybe I'm just getting extra grumpy without having been for a fish for a while?!?

Congratulations on the new fisher girl.