paw wrote: I recall a few years ago a similar discussion and it was said that if you ask for a contribution towards costs you were deemed to be "for hire" and therefore came under all the rules and regulations of a charter boat. I think the general consensus was don't ask but perhaps a suggestion that a contribution would be appreciated could get around this.
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Kevin.S wrote:
I had a discussion with MNZ about that, because as I read it the rules say you cannot accept any payment. But MNZ specifically told me that their interpretation of the rules is that they are set up to allow for friends to contribute towards fuel and other expenses without the vessel being classed as a commercial boat. |
cirrus wrote: just call it donation.If under $14999 you will be fine. |
Rozboon wrote: Depends who it is. I have a couple of close mates with boats. When we're out on their boat, they get the gas, everyone brings a bit of bait and berley. When they're out on our boat, I get the gas. We pretend things like towing costs, servicing the boat etc etc don't exist. Terminal tackle is basically shared, nobody is too precious about a ledger rig here or a jig there. If you're worried about $40 or so now and then, perhaps boating isn't the sport for you. I'd much rather fish with someone who is happy to pull the anchor, change the berley over, help wash the boat, do their part of the filleting, but primarily is good company. If you're towing your $60000 boat to the ramp with your $40000 ute and then feeling hard done to over $50 of gas contribution, mmm, well, perspective. Maybe I'm lucky enough to be in a position where a tank of gas here and there isn't about to sour a bloody good day out with a couple of mates? But as has been said, if you're worried about it, maybe they aren't that good company/mates?? At the other end of things, if I go out on a boat with someone I've not fished with before, I'll get the gas, and make damn sure to do more than my share of the filleting, anchor pulling, or taking turns as wheelman if we're drift fishing. That's how you get invited back, and how you get into a "it all evens out over time" fishing relationship. My 2c anyway. |
Steps wrote: Maybe I'm lucky enough to be in a position where a tank of gas here and there isn't about to sour a bloody good day out with a couple of mates? But as has been said, if you're worried about it, maybe they aren't that good company/mates?? We are not in "lucky enough position" That really does hit the nail damn square on the head either way At the other end of things, if I go out on a boat with someone I've
not fished with before, I'll get the gas, and make damn sure to do more
than my share of the filleting, anchor pulling, or taking turns as
wheelman if we're drift fishing. That's how you get invited back, and
how you get into a "it all evens out over time" fishing relationship. Maybe not able to afford all the gas, but bait burley and straight split of gas etc for sure. All the other stuff mentioned.. Again hits the nail right on the head.. bottom line old school respect and curiosity.... and that is what results in in a further invite. I have a m8/ regular crew of around 8yrs who is 1st in to gut out catch before going in the bin, net ready, on the helm when anchor comes in on the capstan keeping boat lined up, often tows with his truck... all those little thoughtful things. He started borrowing our 'guest' rods etc, then we went to the boat show few yrs back and he brought some mid range basic gear.. It all gets cleaned serviced and stored along side our rods. Hes right into production line filleting at the end of the day.. the skinning boning. He uses my all traces, sinkers bait and when we divide up costs at the end of the day.. always throws in a a generous extra few bucks ( I gave up refusing as he would slip it some where and would find a few days or weeks later ) And to those regulars who are members here...without exception.... Also a great appreciation of their input as well... With attitudes like that make good company.. and end of the day, catch fish or nor , thats what matters. |
Smurfy wrote: Great advice here as usual from the Forum... As i said in the 1st post neither of those 'mates' will be invited back on the boat...and one friendship is over as i have been bled dry enough! I might add that when we pulled the craypot in guess who had to pull it in? No help offered, in fact he passed the rope to me rather than pull it in himself! Plus when in my boat I'M THE SKIPPER AND IN CHARGE and that makes me the boss, so we go where i say and not stand there arguing about it! I should have ditched this parasite years ago so it's good to clear the air on the Forum! For any new mates i will lay out the facts about meeting costs otherwise they stay home. Thanks to all... |
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