Attempted council sell off

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    Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 12:26pm
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Westpark/ Hobsonville Marina berthholders and the local homeowners are still fighting an attempt by Panuku (Auckland council property owning company) to secretly ignore an act of parliament and sell off public land for private development. 

This Stuff article is a good summary of the arrogance and deceit of Panuku:

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Why is it so hard to understand that open space next to the water is far more valuable left as open space for the public to enjoy compared to apartments? If it's used for picnics, parking for trailer boats or marinas etc then it's being optimised.

10 years ago I would have laughed out loud at the concept of that very smelly story relating to NZ. Now it and the council sitting back and watching it all happen just sickens me. 

Given this, Panuku & AT's track record and Goff's increased majority in the last election it looks like it's goodbye to the sort of Auckland I grew up in.
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Something stinks about this, there is only one logical explanation for the way Panuka have behaved and that is corruption.  Someone, somewhere stood to gain something from this deal going through.  I have no idea who, but it should be investigated -and out in the open not behind closed council doors.  People should be sacked over this, and quite possibly criminal charges brought.  But we all know what will happen.
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Originally posted by Dagwood Dagwood wrote:

Given this, Panuku & AT's track record and Goff's increased majority in the last election it looks like it's goodbye to the sort of Auckland I grew up in.

Just to put Goff's "landslide" victory in context -less than 15% of voters voted for him, hardly a resounding success.  A lack of credible alternatives put most people off voting -did you read the details of the people who stood.  Most of them were joke candidates, some deliberately so and some not.
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I cornered the project manager Panuku sent to the "consultation" meeting at the marina for over an hour.

He could give no real answers, to the accusation that they had tried to slide it past us secretly, his response was that that wasn't him, his "team" was new and was trying to do it the right way now!

To the completely illegal attempt to bypass the empowering act with fake public works Act criteria his response was, well we think its legal (moral? no answer) but a court may have to decide . In other words "sue us and see". This is the same response we got when another developer was sold land subject to a lease in perpetuity for marina only use, and built houses. The berthholders Assoc started action but it was impossible to fund a fight against the deep pockets of the council using our rates to fight us!

To the question as to why they were doing it at all there were two answers:

1. we need more houses in Auckland and
2. Goff needs more money to spend on his projects as the Council is at its debt limit and we (Panuku) have been told to sell things!

The process so far has been at the best duplicitous and I have very little hope that the same secret pathways and negotiations aren't still happening behind closed doors.

Currently we have a moratorium until the council develops a policy framework for all the marinas it owns, BUT the other parties really are just going to try and wait us out until they can get the council to change the resolution they passed agreeing to abide by empowering acts and not proceed without an overall strategy.

The give away is that the council is not putting any work into developing said strategy as they have "no budget" .


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Good on you Salty for challenging this.

It's a weak arse attempt to create housing formats for the benefit of a corrupt and incompetent government.

We can only hope the local body elections aren't reflected in the general elections as dismally supported by bugger all people.

Once built on it will never be reclaimed.

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Council is at the limit of its borrowing...
I wonder just how much has been borrowed, for what frivolous projects of self appeasement, and what the ratepayers interest bill is.

you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while...
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Originally posted by Kevin.S Kevin.S wrote:

Just to put Goff's "landslide" victory in context -less than 15% of voters voted for him, hardly a resounding success.  A lack of credible alternatives put most people off voting -did you read the details of the people who stood.  Most of them were joke candidates, some deliberately so and some not.

Agreed. 

However I watched a newbie called Craig Lord have a go. He put a lot of energy into his campaign and some of his ideas seemed to have merit and he appeared to be there for the right reasons. It was sad watching the media decide it was a 2 horse race and cover the election on that basis. Because of that he never stood a chance and did well to get 30,000 votes.

Because of this and the level of voter apathy, Auckland has got the the leadership it has. As a result we can expect Panuku and AT to march on as they have been.
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Yes Craig Lorde was the only viable candidate.
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Originally posted by Dagwood Dagwood wrote:

However I watched a newbie called Craig Lord have a go. He put a lot of energy into his campaign and some of his ideas seemed to have merit and he appeared to be there for the right reasons. It was sad watching the media decide it was a 2 horse race and cover the election on that basis. Because of that he never stood a chance and did well to get 30,000 votes.

Because of this and the level of voter apathy, Auckland has got the the leadership it has. As a result we can expect Panuku and AT to march on as they have been.

Exactly who I voted for, and it was a shame the media gave so much coverage to Tamihere because he was one of the joke candidates.  
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Just goes to show how powerful the media here is. They ignored or rubbished lord (mostly) and did turn it into a two person race.
In short Lord didnt fit into their political agenda.
 As they used to say, In communist countries they call this propaganda. In N.Z they call it the news.
Pretty sure lord wanted to scrap the light rail down dominion road to the airport. Great idea to scrap that. We already have sky buses that run down Dominion Road on a very regular basis,directly to the terminals door. These buses run mostly with a very small number of passengers . Why would multi billion dollar ,slow ,light rail be different.

So expect more cycle lanes that go largely unused. On November 13 2018 the council was talking $900 Million.
Compare that to how much has been put into boat ramps. Around zero into boat ramps. Fishing and cycling are both recreation. The bias toward cycling is very apparent.
And with no more debt capacity council will be selling all they can, or trying to by any means.
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Ok, can we get as many as possible to send the link to this article to their recently elected/reelected Auckaland councilors? At least they then can't claim they are unaware of the behaviour of Panuku.

Your local ward councilors email address can be found here:
https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/about-auckland-council/how-auckland-council-works/governing-body-wards-committees/wards/Pages/ward-councillors.aspx

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