terrafish wrote: Firstly gotta figure out the current direction, and for me I use my gps with the engine in gear and note my s.o.g(speed on ground) and travel the four compass points as a min but the more you do against, the more you can lock it in. ! |
cirrus wrote: Does fishing really need to be this complicated. If the tide is running out it runs that way. When its coming in it runs the other way. Thats how i find it |
FizFisho wrote:
Nothing wrong with chatting about the finer points is there? Dont have to read or post etc :-) |
waynorth wrote: [QUOTE=FizFisho] I'm somewhere in between both of you. Interesting discussion, but it's a fine line between paying attention to details and overthinking things. A couple of thoughts: |
FizFisho wrote: Ive been thinking about adding some kina into the mix as reef snapper go gnarley over Kina, I see it when spearing, its like Piranha swam. |
waynorth wrote: If I was making burley, I would mince everything as finely as possible & add plenty of oil, crushed kina if I could get it, & filler like chook mash - you want to excite the fish not feed them. Follow up with baits the small-mouthed fish can harass but not tear apart or swallow. |
cirrus wrote: Does fishing really need to be this complicated. If the tide is running out it runs that way. When its coming in it runs the other way. Thats how i find it |
foulplay wrote: Agree with snappa geoff. Far too complicated. If you were to take into account all the info here you would suffer from paralysis by analysis. You wouldn't bother going out. Get a bait in the water, get it down and adjust accordingly as conditions vary |
cirrus wrote: Snappa geoff. You mention boat noise. That tinnies in your area often dont catch much in shallows. I have a frewza tinny and dont have that problem in shallow. Would imagine any boat full of enthused fishermen would emit noise. Have thought that fish ,especially big wary snapper actually see the shadow of the boat and keep clear . Or in high current the vibration of current on the anchor could scare them . You also mentioned you dont use burley. I thought i was the only one. Any reason you dont use it.
Learned to strayline on the wellington west coast.That was my introduction to fishing when young. Unweighted whole piper, yelloweye mullet and especially whole or head half of bluecod were the bait de jour. Always shallow water. Low or no current. Our boat then was a double ended kauri clinker 16foot. Almost all straylined snapper were over 8lb, most 10-15lb. Could sometimes see 4-5 other big snapper following the hooked fish up. Only non strayline fishing was very deep for Puka, big blue cod ,some going 10lb or terakihi up to 8lb. Often fished shallow for smaller terakihi ,gurnard etc on change of light. No strayline here,just ledger rig over the side. Often crayfish would walk off with the bait ,get hooked or tangled up. Frustrating at times when wanting to catch "real" fish. Up here in A.K there is often current and cant strayline in that as bait would be pushed near the surface by the current. Weight required in those conditions. |
FizFisho wrote:
Bang on. Really really important part of using berley in straylining.Most of us know all this stuff, but I just thought sharing some tips on one of the simplest methods of fishing might help people out. There are a lot of videos on youtube on how to make berley for snaps ec. Left over frames, old bait, fresh bait not used, chook pellets. But I reckon some totall smashed up kina minus the row might go down a treat. You so lucky. BOI is where Im looking at, Opito bay Rd, around the marina. Or Tutukaka. Have 10 years to decide so no rush haha. But yeah, watching snapper fight over Kina is nuts. Supposedly the Poor Knights are an anomally in the sense there are little in the way of Bronzies and the snapper are the Apex predator. Its noted in a biology report so Im going with it. But I seldom see sharks out there like I do at say Tiri. It would just be nuts if it were legal to crack open some kinas in the the shallower reefs at PK's, would make awesome video. Which leads me to the only time I buy berley is when I want to avoid the tax man I buy some mussel berley. Not often, but it is good stuff. |
waynorth wrote: |
Snappa Geoff wrote: Use large circle hooks, I'm talking Hapuka size, you won't catch the smaller fish. 3-4 kg Snaps are the smallest i catch Straylining.a |
FizFisho wrote: Geoff I also agree re tinnies. But a lot of better quality tinnies are changing, using heavier plate hulls, using cork footing (this is a big one), I know Extreme boats focus on reduction of noise and there boats are far more glass like in operation. |
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