Alan L wrote: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://seachange.org.nz/assets/Sea-Change/SWG/Recreational-Fisheries-in-the-Hauraki-Gulf-Bruce-Hartill-NIWA.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjTks2e27HkAhVSg-YKHV0PBHoQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw22hixT5Dq-CkF6BOQH09Yy |
cirrus wrote: Alan. Are you saying your catch rates have fallen since QMS.? |
Tzer wrote:
Obviously you only read or your brain only comprehended that I mentioned putting cameras on recreational boats and not that commercial cannot land marlin. So based on your comment about an ex-commercial discarding 30 dead marlin, tell me how would cameras make things change when commercial cannot land them due to the bill-fish moratorium. Public outrage may force the government to change this law by-where marlin could now be landed by commercial rather than be wasted, be-careful what you wish for. |
v8-coupe wrote:
As an aside Tzer, If what he said is correct, how is it the commercial operator was able to catch 30 Marlin while fishing for Tuna? Are there no viable anti Marlin methods available such as those for sea birds? Not being smart, just interested is all. Cheers. |
Tzer wrote: [QUOTE=v8-coupe] [QUOTE=Tzer] [QUOTE=Sanchez] Marlin are caught by commercial surface liners targeting tunas such as y/fin, bigeye, albacore etc and cannot be caught & landed within NZ waters due to the bill fish moratorium. As with all baited hook & line fishing you cannot control what eats the bait but the point was made or implied that by having cameras on boats would stop this from happening. |
Alan L wrote: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://seachange.org.nz/assets/Sea-Change/SWG/Recreational-Fisheries-in-the-Hauraki-Gulf-Bruce-Hartill-NIWA.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjTks2e27HkAhVSg-YKHV0PBHoQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw22hixT5Dq-CkF6BOQH09Yy |
v8-coupe wrote:
I have made that suggestion at each of the meetings I have been to. The reply from the commercial sector representative is basically if bring all home is applied to industry then it should apply to the rec sector as well. |
Alan L wrote: Grand daughter has lost interest in fishing. I don't take her now unless I know I can get on to fish. Like having fished a spot a day before a particular way, and done OK, I will persuade her to come, and hopefully have fish on in a time span within her patience. After a morning and maybe a single gurnard, she starts to loose interest, and I don't want her turned off fishing. So I have to be selective when I take her out. The gurnard fishing off our beach used to be the Go-to way to get a feed, and great for kids - bring home a catch of their own to feed the family - all within an hr or two. On a bad day I can spend a morning now collecting a couple of gurnard (or worse). Regards Alan |
pjc wrote:
Pre 1985 snapper bag limits were almost what you caught was your limit.(no bag limit) bag limits for sna1 over the years,quick glance. pre 1985 nil 1985 30@ 25cm 1993 20 @25cm 1995 15 @ 27cm 1997 9 @ 27cm 2014 7 @ 30cm be interesting to see if commercial rates have dropped in comparisonto reccs |
FizFisho wrote:
What do they do then if a Marlin is caught? |
puff wrote: Just to clarify, is this topic saying that recreational fisherpersons take more than commercial fisherman? Isn’t that a little ironic? So people who do it professionally catch less and the amateur fishermen is taking more out of the ocean? What a whole lotta bovine effluent... The problems of this world even outside of fishing is commercialism.... Greed is the reason the world is such a bad state... No difference with fishing stock... |
Tzer wrote:
No this topic was suppose to be about the results of the current recreational fishing survey undertaken and that it has found recreational to be taking more than was previously though. Many though have chosen not to accept the findings and turn this topic around to blame commercial fishing, by all means discuss/debate the pros & cons of this survey but dont make it about commercial fisherman this is a recreational survey. |
Tzer wrote:
By law they have to be released dead or alive. |
cirrus wrote: Alan. Are you saying your catch rates have fallen since QMS.? |
the croc wrote:
It refers only to snapper and kahawai in the Hauraki Gulf, not other species or areas. It's Bruce Harthill's presentation. Pretty much all the recreational fishing research in New Zealand is carried out by Bruce, other than the national panel survey and some of the stuff John does. I reckon pūka are in bad shape around the country, your experience doesn't surprise me at all. I haven't looked into gurnard for a while. |
Alan L wrote:
Sorry - fell behind the conversation - lost internet. Answer.......... Absolutely, unequivocally, YES. Been fishing the same water for approx 30 yrs, every year. Alan |
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