Firearms Reforms-Law abiding shooters need support

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Hey all, just thought I would post this hoping we can all reach into our wallets and donate to have representation against the unfair process that has taken place, treating lawful firearms owners like criminals, firearm compensation etc. 


This has been setup by https://www.colfo.org.nz/ 

Council of Licenced Firearms Owners. 

I understand the team includes a QC plus:
  • Rachael Dean MNZM – COLFO Council Member, Certified Internal Auditor and Certified Fraud Examiner;

  • Bill O’Leary - Immediate Past President NZDA, Retired Board Member Game Animal Council;

  • David Tipple – Firearms Dealer and Importer


Thanks


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I am a firearms owner and have a few bolt action rifles, and unfortunately chch changed everything politically its going to be tough now - good idea and good luck!
 
 
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Yeah Mac Skipper the ship has sailed in terms of stopping the buy back, but fair compensation is first on the agenda. An honest representation and a single voice are other aims that they hope to achieve so the public wise up to the fact that taxpayers are buying antiques and historical firearms caught up in the legislation, some of which you cant even buy ammo for. The way things are going bolt actions could be next.....oh and you may be driving to your local hunting area in an electric car!! 
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The big question is.When are the police going to grow some kahunas and tackle the gangs for illegal weapons,why pick on the innocent.
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Just take a look at the stats.. numbers of arrests, guns, money, assets confiscated, guns confiscated over the last few yrs.

Its not just Hollywood style bust in.. get noting that way.. its longer investigations...when these go down a wide net is pulled in..far more effective the rush and bust.
We dont see all of these hit the papers now, and what we do see are spread out. So the perception is not as high as what really is.

What I never understood is why the amistey did not include non licensed and illegal holders of firearms???
Its the law makers , not the police responsible for that.

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The difference between the USA and that reference, and NZ has no direct relievence

NZ licenced gun owners don't get guns because of criminals..
The get them as hobby, hunting, recreation and collecting.
This is reflected in only 2 licenced owners using their gun against another in something like 20yrs..and not ms style. Except for march 15.
It is also noticeable that in NZ, those shot by guns laying around (children picking up) have been un licenced..

A far more appropriate 'comparason' would be along the lines of.

Participating in a gun buy back program would be handing in your Lamborghini because some drunk boy racers decide to run from the police because of expired licence killing an inconcent family and by standers

The guns being used, the people using them illegally in NZ are unlicieced, not the targeted banned guns...

Same I'll thought thru legistation as kiwi build, the proposed speed limits around Auckland rural roads..
The latter look at the serious accidents deaths.. They are causes by those driving in a manner.. Drunk/stressed/running from police type of stuff by ppl who are not going to take any notice of a speed sign.
Same sort of populist, not thought thru, stuff trump puts forward.
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Nah your over reading things again Steps, 

Its relevant enough, short and sharp with a touch of humour to make it interesting, while by comparison it took 3 attempts to finish reading your comparison/post as i kept getting distracted by what the weathers doing outside

Just my opinion tho
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Yeah maybe.. my thought was more someone cruising a NZ outdoors site then jumping on a band wagon taking that comparison and running with it on the basis of guns being protection from criminals..Wink
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Hes not going to held accountable cause our PM doesn't hold anyone accountable for anything.....

The issue ... again ...is bloody stupid IT ppl...
Some minion in the contracting company makes
1st idiot mistake... some unauthorized changes to access rules....
2nd idiot mistake...keeps the web site on line while doing so, arrogant enough to think they are good enough to get the coding right
3rd mistake.. doesnt check remotely security etc is correct.. before re publishing.
And this is basically the same issue with the budget screw up
Like I have said several times before.. after 25yrs in the industry...used sales men, politicians.. and 5 steps below IT ppl

The  personal mistake by the minister is not have a multi million dollar penitally clause in the IT companies contract..



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