Here We Go Again - Scallops!

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It just doesn't stop does it... increase the consequence...but then again what consequence...wet bust tickets...



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where it does end?
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So this week we have learnt of 3 twats poaching mussels 2.5k??dumped flounder,dumped crays howick area and now this.
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"The men had allegedly taken 565 scallops in total, over 300 of which were under the legal size of 100mm. The daily limit per diver is 20 scallops"

WTF. This is a f**king joke. If all you get is a slap on the wrist, then nothing is going to stop them. What an absolute mess. 
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And many see fit to condemn the commercial sector, just how many poachers/thieves are doing this that aren't caught.

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no doubt those tossers will be slapped with a $100 fine and a very stern telling off.
Makes my blood boil.
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not good at all. on a personal note, i find it very depressing as this is my backyard and i like to do the odd scallop dive. what is wrong with people? greed, stupidity, just not giving a f***? 
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Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

So this week we have learnt of 3 twats poaching mussels 2.5k??dumped flounder,dumped crays howick area and now this.


Yeah bloody comms eh? Who are the bad guys here?
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I wonder what chance there is of getting caught?  Not much I reckon, so this is just the tip of an iceberg.  It really needs some major deterrent as a sentence, otherwise its just financially attracttive to keep on doing it.
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It just goes to show poaching could be more wide spread than we think.The thin blue line obviously need more feet on the ground.But everyone has to be on the watch as it could be even the boat next to you 
  
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There seems to be an MPI guy at Parua Bay (Whangarei Heads) almost permanently at the moment. Nice chap. I brought home a cray the other day which was just, but definitely legal. He took one glance and said fine. That's reasonable enforcement.

Having said that, I don't think it would be difficult to avoid MPI if you had a half a brain. Fortunately, the idiots in these stories don't even seem to have that. Maybe the ones that get away with it are more intelligent. As has been suggested, there might be much more poaching going on than we think.

I do wonder if there's an element of sticking your fingers up at authority in these cases. What the perpetrators don't realise is that they are sticking their fingers up at me and you, and their own ability to collect seafood in the future. Maybe they just don't care.

I don't wish to start a row or upset anyone, but I think the customary take muddies the waters re: reporting and enforcement.   
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Originally posted by Tzer Tzer wrote:

And many see fit to condemn the commercial sector, just how many poachers/thieves are doing this that aren't caught.


 Totally agree...

 Bloody sight more in that comment than initially appears
 The commercial guys get stick from far too many for simply doing what is legal.. which as company directors are legally obligated to do so on behalf the shareholders...
That directly puts the responsibility straight back onto
1/ the law makers
 and lesser extent.
2/ shareholders

 But what we are seeing in these threads is gross illegal raping of already depleted stocks
 If they where not depleted, they would be illegally taking legal size.

It should no longer be looked at by the courts as illegal fishing or poaching, but of a more serious concept of making a species extinct....in human terms.. not murder but genocide
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I agree with most of the above and certainly the courts need to start growing some and dishing out penalties that are deterrents. This kind of thing must be ended.
I can't se how this justifies the comms raping the sea tho, as a recent newcomer to Doubtless Bay I'm told not to bother scalloping, about 10 years ago 16 boats 24 hours a day for 14 days grid dredged the bay taking 16,000 bags of scallops and the Bay has never recovered. This is according to an older resident who overlooks the bay, I shudder to think of the damage to the environment. Yes it was probably legal but I can't see the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL rape. either way we're screwed and recent events don't make me feel that things have improved........... I do see that the comms guys are just trying to make a living and it's the big companies and MPI who are the real bad guys here
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I understand your concerns Mejiro but really WE need to get our act together first. I know that there wouldn't be a single contributor to these forums that would do this. Likewise not every comm is a bad guy and mostly they work within the law. Recreational fishers are far worse behaved.

Not you and I of course but the organised gangs are all lumped in the Recreational Fisherman basket. I'm pretty sure that a lot of the paua and scallop poaching would be done by or for the Mongrel Mob and Black Power cowards.
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from fb..WA Rock Lobster Industry "bought themselves" the first NMSC Sustainability award ever issued!.
There was 600 boats exporting $600 million a year worth of crays.
A year later the cray population collapsed and Fisheries introduced quotas, and reduced the 600boat fleet to 200 boats now exporting ~$300 Million worth a year!
Sustainable, my arse!.
NMSC (National Marine Stewardship Council) has zero feckin credibility world wide - its a feckin sham - they just take your $$ sop you can put a fancy logo on the package to fool idiot gullible "land rights for gay whales" greenie shoppers!
There was once the same thing n the meat Industry - the National Heart Foundation Tick of approval.
You just paid them your money and you could put their red "Tick" logo on your meat product they never even tested any of it for fat content etc.
There's so many feckin scams in this world these days!
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I often order scallops in restaurants. Recently cooked them at home.

I share with you the recipe.
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But hang on, wasn't this over more than two years ago?
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A couple of months ago one of the smaller oyster beds in Whangaroa was stripped and someone was advertising Whangaroa oysters on facebook. Not enough proof to prosecute apparently???
2nd hand info but from good friends who liveaboard and know the owner of the oyster bed and saw the stripped bed as they have permission to take a few
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This is a thread-from-the-dead that was bumped by a stupid Scallop spammer... never seen one of those before ???
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