ID please

Page  123>
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote BFIST Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: ID please
    Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 8:59am
BFIST View Drop Down
Gold
Gold
Avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: Auckland
Status: Offline
Points: 882
We got this in 500m from the Waikawa Trench.


Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote FishMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 1:14pm
FishMan View Drop Down
Moderator - Brown Belt
Moderator - Brown Belt
Avatar

Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: Bay of Islands
Status: Offline
Points: 5756
Looks like a Ribaldo (Mora moro) a deepsea cod. This specimen looks a bit paler than the ribaldo I have seen so there maybe another species closely related to the ribaldo that I don't know about, but I'm guessing it's just a standard ribaldo.

They are a commercial species generally caught at 300 metres and deeper.


Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote BFIST Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2017 at 9:06am
BFIST View Drop Down
Gold
Gold
Avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: Auckland
Status: Offline
Points: 882
Cheers, we should have eaten it then.

We were a bit scared as the only other thing we got was an oil fish and we weren't going anywhere near that.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Catchelot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2018 at 7:27pm
Catchelot View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Oct 2008
Location: Whanga-Vegas
Status: Offline
Points: 47773
Caught in the Kaipara Harbour, possibly a true Rock Cod... any ideas, thoughts chaps?

"The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Catchelot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2018 at 7:32pm
Catchelot View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Oct 2008
Location: Whanga-Vegas
Status: Offline
Points: 47773
Some say Red Cod, some say ******* Cod, or B'stard red cod...

I'm not convinced...Geek
"The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Tzer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2018 at 8:09pm
Tzer View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 02 Jun 2004
Location: Gisborne. NZ
Status: Offline
Points: 5447
Originally posted by Catchelot Catchelot wrote:

Some say Red Cod, some say ******* Cod, or B'stard red cod...

I'm not convinced...Geek


Saw this on FB earlier and replied thinking that this is what it is
http://www.fishguide.co.nz/fishguide/saltwater/saltwater_webpage/untitled/Chigodara_ka/Northern*******Cod.htm

then someone posted back with this
http://fishesofaustralia.net.au/Home/species/2852

I wonder if they are the same fish. Tried posting up proper link but for some reason the hyper link isn't working
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote cirrus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2018 at 9:26pm
cirrus View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium


Joined: 07 May 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 9760
First thought Northern Ba-stard red cod.

But dont recall while fringe on fins on that species.

Think your posting is correct Tzer. Lotela rhacina.

I personally would freeze the fish and get it off to Te Papa for positive id. If not send a photo.
If it is L rhacina then it could be a significant find in N.Z.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote FishMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2018 at 5:52am
FishMan View Drop Down
Moderator - Brown Belt
Moderator - Brown Belt
Avatar

Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: Bay of Islands
Status: Offline
Points: 5756
Yup, Lotella rhacina. Beardie rock cod. Quite common in the north. It's smaller than the ba stard cod and you often see it in shallow caves while the ba stard cod is 20 metres plus. The white lines on the fins of the beardie are quite distinctive when you see it in a cave.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Catchelot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2018 at 2:05pm
Catchelot View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Oct 2008
Location: Whanga-Vegas
Status: Offline
Points: 47773
Anyone know what this is? from 320m

Someone suggested Southern Boarfish - Pentaceros Richardsoni

"The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote FishMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2018 at 2:29pm
FishMan View Drop Down
Moderator - Brown Belt
Moderator - Brown Belt
Avatar

Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: Bay of Islands
Status: Offline
Points: 5756
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Catchelot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2018 at 4:02pm
Catchelot View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Oct 2008
Location: Whanga-Vegas
Status: Offline
Points: 47773
It almost looks like a short squat Hapuku/NZ Groper.

Appears to be thrashed commercially elsewhere in the world, I wonder what they taste like.

"The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Tagit Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2018 at 4:27pm
Tagit View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 21 Aug 2003
Location: Westhaven, Auck
Status: Offline
Points: 15052
I wonder if there is a table fish anywhere in the world where the encyclopedia description doesn't say that it has been commercially over exploited? I'll catch them all then retire with the money I 'earned'. Who cares about the next guy. He can go and find another species to exploit. I don't think there any new species left to find now. Damage has been totally done. Now we are just fighting about the scraps that are left.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote OuttaHere Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2018 at 5:00pm
OuttaHere View Drop Down
Platinum
Platinum


Joined: 05 Oct 2015
Location: NZ
Status: Offline
Points: 2707
Originally posted by Catchelot Catchelot wrote:

It almost looks like a short squat Hapuku/NZ Groper.


Agreed, looks like a Puka and a Tarakihi got a bit amorous at some stage....
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote snapperdave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jul 2018 at 6:53pm
snapperdave View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze


Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 62
Can anyone identify this fugly beast? caught in 400M just out from White island at the weekend cheers Dave
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote smudge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jul 2018 at 7:35pm
smudge View Drop Down
Moderator - Ninja
Moderator - Ninja
Avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: Te Toro
Status: Offline
Points: 32159
No idea! Maybe a ghost shark? Come in Fishman! Reverse google says a tiger shark, I've not seen either but it clearly isn't a tiger 
Best gurnard fisherman in my street
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Catchelot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jul 2018 at 9:07pm
Catchelot View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 07 Oct 2008
Location: Whanga-Vegas
Status: Offline
Points: 47773
Originally posted by snapperdave snapperdave wrote:

Can anyone identify this fugly beast? caught in 400M just out from White island at the weekend cheers Dave

Chimaera - aka Ghost Shark


"The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Tzer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jul 2018 at 9:46pm
Tzer View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 02 Jun 2004
Location: Gisborne. NZ
Status: Offline
Points: 5447
Originally posted by Catchelot Catchelot wrote:

Originally posted by snapperdave snapperdave wrote:

Can anyone identify this fugly beast? caught in 400M just out from White island at the weekend cheers Dave

Chimaera - aka Ghost Shark




Its not a Chimaera Al, its actually a Rat tail. Sorry cant get links to work, so cut and paste.

http://www.fishguide.co.nz/fishguide/saltwater/saltwater_picture/Bonyfishes/sokodara_ka_macrouridae/CommonRattail_OomeGinSokodara/18Nov2008AKFM(FromLing)/23cm_body.jpg

http://www.fishguide.co.nz/fishguide/saltwater/saltwater_picture/Bonyfishes/sokodara_ka_macrouridae/CommonRattail_OomeGinSokodara/18Nov2008AKFM(FromLing)/23cm_body.jpg

Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (1) Likes(1)   Quote FishMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jul 2018 at 5:39am
FishMan View Drop Down
Moderator - Brown Belt
Moderator - Brown Belt
Avatar

Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: Bay of Islands
Status: Offline
Points: 5756
Yep, Tzer's on to it. Chimaerids and Grenadiers both live at the same depths and can both have 'rat tails' so they are often confused. The Grenadiers like this one are true bony fish of the cod family while the Chimaerids are closer to sharks and have a skeleton made of cartilage. Only the Grenadiers can have scales.

400 meters is getting deep Confused Thanks for posting Thumbs Up


Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote snapperdave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2018 at 5:47pm
snapperdave View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze


Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 62
Thanks guys - that fish ID website is a good resource...  I can confirm rat tail filletmakes good blue nose bait Big smile
400M is getting a bit deep - thank Neptune for electric reels!!
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote snapperdave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2018 at 3:07pm
snapperdave View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze


Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 62
OK - so here's another mystery fish, caught 5 years ago by a mate way up in the upper reaches of Rangaunu harbour on a soft bait. I told him I thought it might be a spotted grouper, a protected species - so it went back unharmed. 
 
Back to Top
Page  123>
Forum Jump
Forum Permissions View Drop Down


This page was generated in 0.459 seconds.

Fishing Reports Visit Reports

Saltwater Fishing Reports
Top of the South Fishing Report - 22/03/24

Tasman and Golden Bay snapper still running hot We are not far away from daylight... Read More >

22 Mar 2024
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Bay of Islands Fishing Report - 22/03/24

Variety is the spice of life On one recent trip, the plan was to spend a... Read More >

22 Mar 2024
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Hauraki Gulf Fishing Report - 22/03/24

Fish where the fish are! Catching fish or just going fishing? I tackle this issue... Read More >

22 Mar 2024
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Inner Hauraki Gulf Fishing Report - 22/03/24

Thoughtful tactics required for better fish Over the course of each year the fishing varies,... Read More >

22 Mar 2024
Fishing bite times Fishing bite times

Major Bites

Minor Bites

Major Bites

Minor Bites