Tzer wrote:
All well and good Scott, yes there's is a voice for recreational ( lets not forget the NZRFC is also supposed to represent the public of NZ), a face book page that apart from some helpful info the rest is either propaganda BS or full of the sort of crap you find on other social media pages and submissions made regarding fishery management. There is very little else that I see that Legasea has actually achieved to show affiliated NZSFC club members or the public that they are working for them. |
cirrus wrote: Totally agree that The Australian model is very different in that Sydney for example has the population of N.Z in one city. Big difference in population and big difference in funds available,for example to buy back commercial quota from Sydney harbour. Yet on the plus side the harbour and coast outside the heads has rebounded in way way that has to be seen to be believed. |
LegaSea Community Builder wrote:
LegaSea people were also involved in the Striped Marlin not for sale campaign that saw marlin being a rec only catch. They were also involved in limiting how much kingfish could be harvested by comms years ago. Both those fisheries rank on the world stage - NZ have some of the biggest striped marlin in the world and we hold something like 32 out of the 34 records for kingfish. Legasea people were also involved in the kahawai legal challenge. Those are tangible outcomes for rec fishers. Maybe the question everyone should ask themselves is - what would rec fishing look like if LegaSea wasn't in existence? Who would step up? Who would get behind them? It's obvious lots of unhappy or concerned individuals don't make a difference to Govt until they are speaking with one voice. Forgive me if I haven't read your post correctly but it looks like you're calling the whats fishing worth study BS and propaganda. Considering the same study has been done in other countries and had success, calling it BS/propaganda would be false as it has shown the value of rec fishing and govt's in other countries not captured by the commercial industry have had the sense to see the value of rec fishing and help it grow accordingly. Mexico for example. You're entitled to your opinion however lets keep the trash talk out shall we? Unfortunately when the viewers see trash talk going on they lose respect for the talkers and it weakens the arguments of those who use it. Fewer people seem to be posting in the forums these days - quite possibly because of the trash talk, shame really because it's a good place to be a part of the rec fishing community.
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I wouldn't be so dismissive of what licensing can do based upon the population of NZ. The population of WA is considerably less then NZ (2.6M vs 4.6M) and the general consensus from anglers over here is that they are quite satisfied with what has been able to be achieved with the revenue raised from licences. |
Fish Addict wrote: |
Clutch wrote: Seriously why are so many Australians commenting on our fishery? |
Clutch wrote:
With such a small population in NZ, and less than 1 million fishos, its almost impossible to generate enough cash to make any difference. |
NumnuT_AUS wrote:
You cannot compare total population numbers with licence paying fishos. I reckon there would easily be more saltwater fishing licence paying people in WA, than there would be in ALL of NZ. Was it around 900,000 regular fishos in NZ? Minus all Maori - how many ? minus pensioners - how many ? those that just wont pay - how many ? doesn't leave too many fisherpeople to fill the coffers does it. I am very happy with what I have seen my fishing licence fees go towards. Craig |
Catchelot wrote:
I think it is great that way we may learn from their mistakes and also how its is effected their fishing areas, pros/cons, advantages/disadvantages, comms pushed out, environmental monitoring, bureaucratic regulations and much more. I personally cannot stand the idea for NZ but if it is inevitable then best we learn from those doing it and not re-invent the wheel and make it square! ... Just my ten cents |
Clutch wrote: Seriously why are so many Australians commenting on our fishery? |
Fish Addict wrote:
I was born and breed in NZ and spent the first 30 years of my life there. I want to make sure that when I return on holidays there are some fish left. |
Fish Addict wrote:
Had you read the posts a few pages back you would have seen that the WA Dept of Fisheries reported that 170,094 licences were purchased during the 2014 / 2015 year. That number of licences represents less than 4% of the population of NZ. Seems doable to me. |
Clutch wrote: I actually like Australia but they should have no impact or say on our fishery. |
NumnuT_AUS wrote:
How much of a say do you have in your fishery? |
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