you could try light braid - but think you will have more joy with mono
i can see you getting lots of bustoffs on the braid due to its light breaking strain and lack of stretch
the stretch in mono wont be significant in that depth of water - youll still have good control with 4kg mono
Yeah braid is not ideal for straylining because it's very buoyant. I reckon the crossover between mono and braid is about 30 metres.
I see in the latest Fishing News that Sam Mossman finds that he is using braid for almost all his fishing ... interesting take on it.
Quote: Originally posted by KeriBOI on 06 September 2005
yeah, that article made me look into it.
BH Said "i can see you getting lots of bustoffs on the braid due to its light breaking strain and lack of stretch"
I thought it was usually stronger than mono at the same breaking strain.
huh? breaking strain is just that - regardless of whether its mono, braid or one of your short and curlies
KeriBoi, 10 mtrs of water will probably have kelp to contend with?
That's where the floating tendancy of braid can be a big plus.
A small ball sinker to help get the bait down with the rest of the line floating can make life a lot easier on light gear.
I'm with Sam Mossman on the braid thing---nearly all my reels are loaded with it.
Consider using recurve hooks when fishing this style--I use Gammie 4/0's & 5/0's.
The recurves will negate the need to strike hard, something that makes light line straylining difficult.
I say, go for it!
Keri - it is a different style. It took me ages to come to grips with fishing braid (but that's because I'm a slow learner with v.small brain).
OK now I want to raise a point. Tying knots in braid. Why not just use the old granny knot. We tie special knots in mono to prevent it cutting through itself.
So, if braid don't cut through itself, why not just tie an ordinary knot?
KeriBOI it will probably take more than one session to get used to braid... It can be used successfully at all depths if you change your technique. I suggest not striking at all. Don't write it off after the first session, cos chances are you will hate it. Also Braid has a breaking strain guideline only... They are typically way stronger than they suggest. I think braid has a lower knot strength and the breaking strain guideline takes this into concideration. (ChrisW or Sooshee will know the guts on that). As far as I am aware there is no igfa rated braid????
I rate Braid!
Hi KeriBoi
I fish braid and light nylon in the shallows (3-6m). I put a big bait on a circle (Mustad Demon 8/0) with the rod in the holder on the braid while I strayline with the nylon.
A problem I experience with the braid is the number of 'crows nests' I get when casting (overhead reel) with the braid if it has kinked. This is worse if I try and use smaller unweighted baits like I would use on the light nylon.
Cheers
K
Quote: Originally posted by Bender on 06 September 2005
So, if braid don't cut through itself, why not just tie an ordinary knot?
Bender, on the contrary, because braid is so slippery and more abrasive it will cut through itself easier than mono. So yes, many of the locally available braid are rated below it's stated test. If I remember correctly, Fireline is about 20-40% higher .
Hey Uncle, never realised the "floating above the kelp" angle before. Makes a lot of sense though.
I think FINS may have been sold here by Kilwell or Conaghans at one stage. Never used it before but FishB8 has so I am keen to hear his comments.
I only fish with braid from boats nowadays. Not much chance to strayline from a boat in Wellington so I can't really comment on using braid for it.
I've got 37 Kg FINS PRT braid on a 6/0 reel - all 1200 yards of it! That's topped off with about 100 metres of 37 kg mono. Got 3 marlin on this outfit and the only real difference is if you up the drag to about 16 kg, then you really do need a glove on the left hand to level wind the line. The mono gives plenty of stretch and the braid allows capacity to use a smaller reel. Great, especially for stand-up. Lack of stretch means you can go to low speed and winch your fish in as you won't wreck the spool with over-pressure.
I also have 2, 6/0 with 600 yds of mono and 600 of braid and I've never seen the braid come off the reel yet
i'll be picking up my torium 16 from auckland marine centre tomorrow, i had 300m of 15 kg berkley whiplash put on. i'm hoping to use it for some straylining soon. if weather is good friday i'll give it a go. if not i hope to do some deepwater straylining on the toots trip coming up in a week and a half.
if so i'll give some feedback for what its worth.
Quote: Originally posted by sooshee on 06 September 2005Oops sorry, what I meant to say what that most of the locally available braid are actually much much stronger (no knots) than its stated test.
....So yes, many of the locally available braid are rated below it's stated test. If I remember correctly, Fireline is about 20-40% higher .
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